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    <title>I prefer PHP because it is</title>
    <link>https://www.webmaster-forums.net/web-design-and-graphics/jarva-or-php#comment-1276268</link>
    <description> &lt;p&gt;I prefer PHP because it is very simple to use and easy learn. It has great user friendly features and best way to develop a attractive website.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>lennondevid</dc:creator>
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    <title>DomainZaar wrote:i am am just</title>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-msg&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;DomainZaar&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;i am am just starting out and would like to know what is the best scripted to learn out of jarva or php&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don&#039;t know jarva. maybe what you mean is java, js, or jsp.... i don&#039;t know.&lt;br /&gt;
java is different to javascript (js) and also different to jsp.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if you talk about database, php is the most used worldwide rather than asp and jsp.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 01:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>jeanneluv</dc:creator>
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    <title>PHP is the best</title>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;PHP is the best&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>powernick</dc:creator>
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    <title>There are times if I could</title>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;There are times if I could apparatus something that Java would be bigger for, or in actuality area alone Java will do the task, but it is actual attenuate in my case and I artlessly plan about it with PHP or sometimes CSS.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>gamolsdoya</dc:creator>
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    <title>Very true, but that issue is</title>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Very true, but that issue is not with the language, it&#039;s with the &lt;strong&gt;developer&lt;/strong&gt;.  Applications are only as secure and organized as the developer makes it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Frameworks IMO help give newbie developers more guidelines to follow and help them to develop good habits early.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve seen many books and on-line tutorials that introduce PHP, show how easy it is and then go advanced by sticking a pile of SQL into the page code.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK, so that&#039;s a problem with the book, not with PHP in general.  I&#039;ve seen equally bad (or worse) books for Java.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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    <title>pr0gr4mm3r,
as to your three</title>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;pr0gr4mm3r,&lt;br /&gt;
as to your three points, all I can say is:-&lt;br /&gt;
conceded&lt;br /&gt;
conceded&lt;br /&gt;
conceded&lt;br /&gt;
I didn&#039;t know a great deal about PHP.  I know a lot more now having Googled some of the things you said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would say though that because PHP is simple to learn if you don&#039;t jump into using frameworks, people risk learning badly. I&#039;ve seen many books and on-line tutorials that introduce PHP, show how easy it is and then go advanced by sticking a pile of SQL into the page code. Or creating a nice looking page by sticking loads of image fragments in between dynamically generated HTML.&lt;br /&gt;
It can quickly end up very messy for the developers, especially if you have separate disciplines like graphics people and database architects.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>COSSOFT</dc:creator>
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    <title>It breaks the Model /View</title>
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    <description> &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It breaks the Model /View /Controller paradigm and you end up in a grand mess with SQL, HTML, text, PHP, passwords and general crap all in one place&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;False.  There are several frameworks that use the MVC approach - Codeigniter, Zend Framework, and CakePHP just to name a few.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Plus, it&#039;s an incomplete language as it can&#039;t draw anything.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://us3.php.net/gd&quot;&gt;False&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://us3.php.net/imagick&quot;&gt;again&lt;/a&gt;.  Someone isn&#039;t doing their homework. &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/wink.png&quot; title=&quot;Wink&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you want a couple of pages to display the current time, then I guess PHP is okay, but for any new (non trivial) project I recommend Java with a web framework such as Spring, Struts, Java Server Faces etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;False. (Although this one is more like an opinion.)  There are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;several&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/&quot;&gt;large&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/&quot;&gt;sites&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digg.com/&quot;&gt;that&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sourceforge.org/&quot;&gt;run&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/&quot;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imageshack.us/&quot;&gt;I&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.photobucket.com/&quot;&gt;know&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://wordpress.com/&quot;&gt;of&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weather.gov/&quot;&gt;plenty&lt;/a&gt;).  Plus, there are &lt;strong&gt;countless&lt;/strong&gt; PHP projects and software solutions out there, like Wordpress, phpBB, Drupal....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know I am sounding blunt and possibly rude, but everything you said about PHP was not true, so you need to brush up on your PHP skills before you can argue against it.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 04:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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    <title>Personally, I try my hardest</title>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Personally, I try my hardest to not touch javascript.  Browsers don&#039;t really understand it properly without having to code for individual ones.  Also I don&#039;t like php.  I think that it&#039;s for beginners really.  It breaks the Model /View /Controller paradigm and you end up in a grand mess with SQL, HTML, text, PHP, passwords and general crap all in one place.  Plus, it&#039;s an incomplete language as it can&#039;t draw anything.&lt;br /&gt;
If you want a couple of pages to display the current time, then I guess PHP is okay, but for any new (non trivial) project I recommend Java with a web framework such as Spring, Struts, Java Server Faces etc.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>COSSOFT</dc:creator>
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    <title>Hi,
I think both are good.</title>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;br /&gt;
I think both are good. But php is  safe and easy to use.PHP shows the results quicker.PHP is more widely available.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Dylan152</dc:creator>
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    <title>javascript only can do the</title>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;javascript only can do the enhancement of the webpages i mean to the client side if u want to be a good webmaster u should have knowledge of php too&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Dj Kid</dc:creator>
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