Reece S — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:05:29 +0000

My Wort problem is different web clients.
You make something campat for IE, then later discover it is a disaster with firefox, lol. When i first started, i was using text boxes, my god, it was chaos on firefox.
visit my website:
http://www.pcgenius.co.nr/

ryanstreet — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:22:11 +0000

pr0gr4mm3r;225818 wrote: The hardest part is dealing with the people as Roo said. The computer always does as it's told. My clients do not. (I am not stereotypically judging all my clients as difficult...just some of them are) I would go on, but I feel a rant forming. I will just leave it at that .

Hehe, I agree completely. thanks for the post!

ryanstreet — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:21:34 +0000

Megan;225809 wrote: Oh, that's an interesting question! There are so many angles you could take on this one.

One of the first things that comes to mind is the limitations of HTML/CSS as a design platform. What we have is really not where it should be in terms of the tools we have to create visual designs and lay out pages. Because of the slow development and adoption of CSS we continue to jump through hoops and corrupt semantic HTML to create even simple page layouts.

Another problem that is really difficult is actually getting people to visit your site - and not just show up once, but come back again, or take the desired action (participating in a community, subscribing to a newsletter, buying a product etc.). Accomplishing your goals as a website.

I also agree with Roo about educating people. And not jsut about good design, but what it takes to do good design and what that service is worth. Also educating people about the holistic nature of web design - what it looks like is only a small part of the bigger picture.

Overall, it's a big challenge to integrate all the factors that go in to a good website - design, marketing, seo, usability, semantics, mark-up, programming, interactivity, content development, information architecture, writing, typography etc. etc.

Very interesting! I really appreciate your answer!!

ryanstreet — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:21:01 +0000

Roo;225804 wrote: Educating clients about usability issues and good design. So many of them want useless bells and whistels.

Keeping up with the changes in how things are done.

Internet Explorer. (Self expanatory yes?)

thanks for the post!

pr0gr4mm3r — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:00:35 +0000

The hardest part is dealing with the people as Roo said. The computer always does as it's told. My clients do not. (I am not stereotypically judging all my clients as difficult...just some of them are) I would go on, but I feel a rant forming. I will just leave it at that .

Megan — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:34:29 +0000

Oh, that's an interesting question! There are so many angles you could take on this one.

One of the first things that comes to mind is the limitations of HTML/CSS as a design platform. What we have is really not where it should be in terms of the tools we have to create visual designs and lay out pages. Because of the slow development and adoption of CSS we continue to jump through hoops and corrupt semantic HTML to create even simple page layouts.

Another problem that is really difficult is actually getting people to visit your site - and not just show up once, but come back again, or take the desired action (participating in a community, subscribing to a newsletter, buying a product etc.). Accomplishing your goals as a website.

I also agree with Roo about educating people. And not jsut about good design, but what it takes to do good design and what that service is worth. Also educating people about the holistic nature of web design - what it looks like is only a small part of the bigger picture.

Overall, it's a big challenge to integrate all the factors that go in to a good website - design, marketing, seo, usability, semantics, mark-up, programming, interactivity, content development, information architecture, writing, typography etc. etc.

Roo — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:58:46 +0000

Educating clients about usability issues and good design. So many of them want useless bells and whistels.

Keeping up with the changes in how things are done.

Internet Explorer. (Self expanatory yes?)