Leananshee — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:29:41 +0000

pr0gr4mm3r;224735 wrote: Sounds like you might find Project Honey Pot interesting.

Absolutely. They and the folks at KnujOn are doing fine jobs, and should be commended for it. Matter of fact, Project Honeypot is using a variant of what I'm suggesting. I've been looking into both of them closely.

So why not hit these scum in as many places it can be made to hurt? Call me a vigilante; when you're out in the Wild West you need a few of 'em.

pr0gr4mm3r — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:28:26 +0000

Sounds like you might find Project Honey Pot interesting.

Leananshee — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:40:11 +0000

greg;224716 wrote: trouble is they aren't that daft
their outgoing email addresses are generally different to the ones they want you to reply to

so you set up an auto return spamming code and nothing comes of it as the server rejects anything to that address

Well, yes, those kind of "anti-spam" measures are primitive at best, but that's not what I'm suggesting. I'm talking about setting spamtraps of legit and non addys from the original domain of the spam for spambots to pick up. The originating domain then receives incoming spam messages, which clogs its bandwidth whether it accepts them or not.

greg;224716 wrote: thats if there is to be a reply, most spam is just ads, pay per click stuff and ppp ads they mass mail, they dont need return/reply emails so shut off the incoming mail

There's an organization called KnujOn that's had unparalleled success in doing a kind of forward traceroute on those links you just mentioned, and have shut down a fair number of these websites by so doing. Check 'em out.

This is not some newbie's fit of frustration; we designers and developers have had enough of what amounts to an attack on our livelihoods.

greg — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:21:11 +0000

trouble is they aren't that daft
their outgoing email addresses are generally different to the ones they want you to reply to

so you set up an auto return spamming code and nothing comes of it as the server rejects anything to that address

thats if there is to be a reply, most spam is just ads, pay per click stuff and ppp ads they mass mail, they dont need return/reply emails so shut off the incoming mail

but I know your frustration. the best way is to defend yourself against it, filters etc, and use your time and energy on more productive things rather than stress and revenge

or you could just ddos