JeevesBond — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 02:17:13 +0000

webwiz wrote: Back to the 1990s and spacer GIFs , methinks.

Wow. That's scary (but true). I think demonhale is trying to angle this person towards just using a div (although that might not always be the best thing to do). Although the number of people that have minimum font size set are few and I doubt the page will be unusable for those people if the font size were a little larger than 3px. Also, wasn't it Netscape Navigator 4 that required something be in the table cell?

My suggestion: test it with nothing in the cell (making sure the is removed) in all modern browsers, if it works don't worry about the spacer.gif

webwiz — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:14:08 +0000

@demonhale:

But I'm not talking about "when the font controls are increased" - I'm talking about the minimum font size setting. See this article about the effect it has.

demonhale — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 04:28:29 +0000

you have a point there, but when the font controls are increased, if purely for design purposes the page elements should increase with it with the fonts in this method... or you can use nested divs, with the smaller div inside... just a thought...

webwiz — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:44:34 +0000

demonhale said:

Quote: So if you want a 3px block for example, assign on it's CSS a font size lesser than 3px...

But be aware that some of us set a minimum font size in our browsers that would override your font-size declaration.

Back to the 1990s and spacer GIFs , methinks.

Cordially, David.

demonhale — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 04:55:15 +0000

well as I said, without using an image for spacers, use smaller font sizes inside the div cell...

pr0gr4mm3r — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:11:33 +0000

You still specify with width & height in the cell properties, so yes.

zoran — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:09:07 +0000

so using the 1px gif makes it as tall as u like? is that it?

pr0gr4mm3r — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:36:12 +0000

I believe it was IE. It was a while ago when I discovered that, so it may have been corrected in recent versions. When a cell's content was empty, it didn't show the cell at all. Since " " made the cell as high as the font size, I used the 1 px gif.

zoran — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:25:55 +0000

pr0gr4mm3r;220399 wrote: Correct, but some browsers require you to have something in that cell. I have a 1x1 px gif that I use for that.

Save & use this: http://www.pr0gr4mm3r.com/images/spacer.gif

and which browsers would that be? i checked with Ieplorer and Firefox and they seem to be fine with very narrow cells!!! tha non breaking space worked just fine!!!

pr0gr4mm3r — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:39:14 +0000

timjpriebe;220396 wrote: Dreamweaver automatically puts a non-breaking space - - in the cell. Delete that, and you'll probably be fine.

Correct, but some browsers require you to have something in that cell. I have a 1x1 px gif that I use for that.

Save & use this: http://www.pr0gr4mm3r.com/images/spacer.gif