gkd_uk — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:39:03 +0000

I have set my Windows updates to be set to download but not install. I am then able to go through the updates and remove the ones I don't require and then click install.

This way I know what is updates have been installed.

rtroxel — Sat, 26 May 2007 23:42:20 +0000

Quote: My laptop just restarted while I was installing CS3, man, that IS annoying. Don't know for sure if it was because of windows update (I wasn't paying attention to the little icons down there) but all I had going was CS3 setup. Now I gotta start it all over again. Argggggg

I don't recall ever giving XP permission to just automtically reboot the PC after installing an upgrade. They just started doing it, in the wee hours of the morning, a few months ago.

Renegade — Sat, 26 May 2007 22:25:55 +0000

Teammatt3, it was probably a kernal update that you did, one of the only times you need to restart after an update.

teammatt3 — Sat, 26 May 2007 04:08:27 +0000

Quote: Heh, give it time.

Dang, you're right. My laptop just restarted while I was installing CS3, man, that IS annoying. Don't know for sure if it was because of windows update (I wasn't paying attention to the little icons down there) but all I had going was CS3 setup. Now I gotta start it all over again. Argggggg

Hey, I had to restart ubuntu after an update today, so hah! Microsoft 1, Ubuntu 1.

JeevesBond — Wed, 23 May 2007 21:49:10 +0000

matt wrote: Windows [...] has never restarted by itself (without asking my permission) on my system.

Heh, give it time. This is one thing I keep hearing complaints about. Someone's in the middle of sorting out their photos on their computer so leaves it on overnight, they come back the next morning to find Windoughs has kindly restarted for them. Yay, thanks Windoughs! Think you have to leave it for a while without answering the annoying bubble before it will restart automatically.

matt wrote: I do like the fact that you rarely have to restart with Ubuntu updates.

Yes, that's handy. The only real reason you need to restart Linux is a kernel update. They don't happen often. Unlike Windows, *nix doesn't lock files. Which can cause problems, but not nearly as many as the Microsoft way of doing things does.

Megan wrote: Yeah, linux sort of assumes that you're all uber-geeks who want the latest updates asap.

No, you're getting Ubuntu mixed up with Gentoo:

Quote: Enter the idea of a "haemorrhaging edge" distro: Gentoo. It is the exemplar of the term "haemorrhaging edge" -- there is no piece of software too advanced, too experimental, or too downright dangerous for the main tree. (If the users don't have a chance to crash their box at least once a week due to new and untested software they will swarm onto the forums and accuse Gentoo of "going all Debian" on them.)

Ubuntu has a policy (with the exceptions of Firefox and Wine) to only release new software every 6 months, the strange version names do mean something you know The updates between should only be security fixes. There are good reasons why Ubuntu users will probably see more updates than Windows though:

GNU/Linux updates != Windows updates. Windows updates update Windows and a couple of other Microsoft bits 'n' bobs (get it: Bob, Microsoft Bob, we should do a comedy double-act Matt). GNU/Linux updates are for all the software installed on your system.
Microsoft rolls all its updates into one per month. Called 'patch tuesday'. Naturally Microsoft have tried both releasing patches as required and rolling them all up. They get ridiculed no matter which approach they take, probably because they're Microsoft. Both methods have advantages and disadvantages. On a related note: GNU/Linux (Debian based distros at least) allow sysadmins to create a local software repository, updates can be downloaded to that, then rolled out to local machines as and when the sysadmin wants.

Megan wrote: I'm getting really annoyed with this too. Last week it was their anti-spywere too. As if I'm going to let MS tell me what is "safe" or not.

This made me chuckle. Microsoft removing spyware, judging by this article their latest business line is spyware!

Megan — Wed, 23 May 2007 15:35:14 +0000

Yeah, linux sort of assumes that you're all uber-geeks who want the latest updates asap. I did have to install a lot last month but they seem to have slowed down.

teammatt3 — Wed, 23 May 2007 15:08:47 +0000

Quote: I have been using the automatic udate option, and Windows has been updated several times each month for the past two months. Often my computer is automatically rebooted after the updated has been installed.

Windows (or windoze if you wanna call it that, I think windoughz is better [like money, dough, hah I'm pretty creative]) has never restarted by itself (without asking my permission) on my system. You give it permission by clicking ok (usually it has in small text clicking ok will restart your computer) or you can click cancel or a later button. You just have to be sure you click the right option to make it not restart your computer. Sometimes it will give you a little countdown and you can stop it (which, I guess is the only time it will restart without you telling it to). Ya just gotta read everything.

Quote: Ubuntu's updates are so much better! I get a little icon notification, I can install them whenever I want, they're fast and unobtrusive, and I rarely have to restart.

I don't know about that. Everyday it seems like I have one piddily thing to download and install (which is why it downloads and installs faster). They should bundle them up in one larger download like windows does. I understand that they want to keep you updated ASAP but it does get annoying. It's probably because I have PHP, MySQL, and Apache, but I don't know. Hey, windows has a little icon too. It downloads in the background, then it annoys you until you install it. Just like in Ubuntu . I do like the fact that you rarely have to restart with Ubuntu updates.

Heh, windoughz.com is available. I should get it.

Megan — Wed, 23 May 2007 14:01:57 +0000

I'm getting really annoyed with this too. Last week it was their anti-spywere too. As if I'm going to let MS tell me what is "safe" or not.

Another really annoyhing one is Adobe acrobat reader. Yesterday I tried to install their update but I couldn't because they put their big installation files in my temporary space and that exceeded my profile space limits so I couldn't restart mid-way through the installer like I was supposed to. What, you ask? Restarting during a sosftware installation??? That's right, skip! It happens on windoze In this case Adobe's fault but either way....

Ubuntu's updates are so much better! I get a little icon notification, I can install them whenever I want, they're fast and unobtrusive, and I rarely have to restart.

Michele78 — Wed, 23 May 2007 12:15:57 +0000

I never turn my automatic updates on, to many of them have bugs that screw with software. a few months ago I forgot to turn the auto off on my new laptop and certain programs were un around microsofts websites to fix what they didn't test or think about hard before putting it out.glitching like crazy.
I talked with a tech and I was told there are patches for all the stuff you gotta go searching on microsofts site.

As to all the updates, well some are important some are not then you have the updates that have to fix the last updates, its a big circle u go round and round on.

I stay a week or 2 behind on lots of updates for this reason, I don't have time to run around their site to fix bad updates. So I keep watch on a board I know and when he says its all clear I go and do it.

O every Tuesday is patch day.