mairving — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:57:37 +0000

DaveyBoy wrote: So unless someone uses IE or FF they can't view your web site? Madness.

Or if they are Chinese.

steve40 — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 03:52:01 +0000

Then again you just have to overlook my rantings, when I have had a bad hair day. This has been one of them, sort of like a cursed murphy law day. Not if something can go wrong it will, but nothing works right even when you try day.

steve40 — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:37:28 +0000

Oh yes. An added note, Photolinks just booted me off of their list. Why? - because some of the other sites on the server I am on, are porn sites. But I don't have any links to them, or any other connection. I wont even let anyone post fine art photos on my board, because I consider this porn under another name.

So I guess any way you decide to cut it, is fair on the internet.

Megan — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:34:04 +0000

So why do you care if the site doesn't look perfect to them? I don't care if my site looks perfect in every browser. It's not like you're doing anything particularly complex anyway. Yahoo has a nice chart of their browser support levels - basically, widely used browsers get full support and testing. Second tier gets less testing but are allowed to use it anyway. Only really obscure/old browsers (like Netscape 4 for example) don't see anything. If you've got a basic HTML site with no complex functionality it's pretty rediculous to try to block browsers. If it's such a small portion of your visitors then why do you care if the site doesn't look right to them. Might as well let them in if they want rather than putting up a big "go away" sign.

steve40 — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:29:09 +0000

No its not actively on my webpage right now. Netscape might make it through, since it is nothing more than FireFox. But I'm not sure about it, since the script detects by file name. But what other browsers count besides MSE, and FireFox. Every thing else only composes around 5% of my traffic.

Megan — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:25:23 +0000

busy - thanks for the clarification there!

busy wrote: if you do not have a legite version forcing people to buy XP, then soon Vista will be released and people again will have to buy that ...

... or you could just switch to Linux

steve - that's pretty dumb IMO. As an Opera user I really hate it when sites do that. The range of browsers available are expanding. Since most are very standards compliant there is very little reason. The "chinese junk" bit is just rude. If you read about that browser you'll see that it's actually using IE's rendering engine. So no point in blocking it. People who use fringe browsers are used to funny things happening once in awhile (and with more widespread adoption of web standards this is becoming increasingly rare). We'd rather see the site funny than not at all. Well, actually, it doesn't matter that much because we can just go someplace else.

DaveyBoy — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:44:52 +0000

So unless someone uses IE or FF they can't view your web site? Madness.

steve40 — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:12:50 +0000

I would block them, just so I don't have to worry about hacking for a bummy browser. Or it just might convince them to get a real browser, if enough people did it. Besides we have enough Chinese junk in the US already, I think they even own the White House. Its rumored that Bill Clinton sold it to them.

You wont disguise a browser by this script. I have Opera on my machine, and have tested it already. Opera went to BFE.

Busy — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:20:36 +0000

Megan wrote: THey were also planning on making lonhorn (now vista) subscription based but I don't think they're doing that anymore (?)

From what I understand Vista and Longhorn are different things, both available. Vista is the operating system and longhorn the server. It is going to be a bit tighter already with XP they have used a identifier key in the updates which will block all windows updates if you do not have a legite version forcing people to buy XP, then soon Vista will be released and people again will have to buy that ...

mairving — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:57:41 +0000

steve40 wrote: Oh Great!.

I have a block browser script, with which I can block out, and re-direct all browsers except IE and FireFox. Then send them to where ever I want. There is a site on the web called BFE, that probably would be as good a place as any. I am just about ready to us it. Between the two browsers is about 95 % of all my traffic, so it would make very little difference to me.

Working out the little differences between FF, and IE is never a real big deal. Most of the time its just some little margining issue, but with some of the others not so. If I block out the rest I can sleep peacefully again at night, instead of trying to correct browser issues in my dreams.

Why would you block someone from your site because of their browser. Wouldn't it be better just to have them have the page display poorly. Maxthon use IE as it's engine so it should render pages like IE and probably is detected as IE. Besides that doesn't work as well any more since some like Opera allow you to masquerade as IE.