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    <description> &lt;p&gt;If i&#039;m understanding this right you just want that pattern to be at the top as well as the bottom. Make it the body BG, bottom left, repeat-x.... then also place it inside of a div that is your header, set in class like .header, which is 100% width. BG, top left, repeat-x.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;I said it wont validate unless you commanded a Bg to fix itself as seperate php pages, using div was my first example, so making it using php is not useful if you plan to use full divs anyways... just to clear things up...&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Frames are bad and should not be considered, several reasons: pages cant be bookmarked, not search engine friendly ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Using the php includes would just be 3 seperate divs, and would validate&lt;br /&gt;
You can only have one body background&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;or another I can think of again is make seperate middle, header and footer php files and do one index with the three includes that have seperate BG... though it wont validate...&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;you can achieved this by frames althought its not the way you want to go about it. alternatively, you can use css to set the bottom image repeatable and fixed non scrollable to the body tag, then find a floating menu script for the top and configurated it with the background image and make it your header/navigation, I have tried and use css to do this but it only seems to work with FF and not IE, but if you make 3 frames and use the top/bottom frame with the bg image, its relatively easy and less headache if you just want to achieve the effect.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;jeeves just pointed out an example busy, so i suggested an option for doing seperate images for bg...&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;that image has a bottom section? I just see a tarten style top section&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;you could actually try two full divs with percentage bottom distances and make it auto adjust to the width too, then use the regular background on the body tag for the top part... While ont that div, use z-indexes, that way you will seem to have a seperate top background and seperate site bottom background... just a trick I tried before...&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;But don&#039;t you want the background on the top &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; bottom?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m trying to think of a way to achieve this... Unfortunately there&#039;s no way (although there will be in about 4-6 years time) of setting two backgrounds on the same element. &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/sad.png&quot; title=&quot;Sad&quot; alt=&quot;Sad&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;You can even float the background (I use this on one of my sites)&lt;br /&gt;
in a css file is best (you will be using CSS right?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;body { background-image: url(&quot;imagename.gif&quot;); background-repeat:repeat-x; background-attachment: fixed; }&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is best to set your background-color and color in body as well&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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