demonhale — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:56:00 +0000

Now I do know, and I will try just to study about this just incase I need it in the future...

Megan — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:38:59 +0000

I know Sitepoint had a tutorial on Ajax not too long ago. I think it would be a neat thing to learn although I don't know how useful it would be for people like us i.e. people who don't do more high level application development or things like that. For static websites there are many more important things to work on.

demonhale - I'm pretty sure you'd know it if you were using Ajax!

timjpriebe — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:57:15 +0000

I'd like to learn AJAX, but as with many things, I would like to start with simple ideas that can be quickly put into a production environment. Jeeves (or whoever can answer), do you know of any simple examples?

In other words, I understand that the more complicated AJAX examples are updating information without page refreshes, but am wondering if there's something simpler like rotating banner ads or something that I can use to learn.

JeevesBond — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:52:09 +0000

bja888 wrote: We shall continue the ajax.net debate in a new thread I will be starting shortly about visual web developer 2005

As my ex said (I thought this was hilarious btw):

Quote: We're not arguing, I'm right.

There is no debate to have: AJAX and .NET are completely different things. Also any debate about AJAX that needs to be done will happen in this thread.

demonhale wrote: Why is that jeeves? I found that link to an actual Ajax developer site as an example

Oh, I don't doubt that there's AJAX in there, what I wanted to point out is that everything I tried in my 5 minute visit there didn't need to use AJAX, I edited some stuff on a page but as I wasn't signed-in it didn't need to save what I'd done back to a database. Everything else (background images and such) could have been loaded by using standard Javascript, or with the page call.

Remember a couple of years ago when XML first became fashionable? Suddenly everyone was touting it as the answer to everything, and exactly the same thing's happening here with AJAX. This is not some magical, catch-all, save the web, technology. It's a very specific bit of functionality that allows the browser to send and recieve data to the web server without loading the whole page.

Nothing more, nothing less.

demonhale — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:04:18 +0000

Read Megans post its listed there already, thanks for the links anyways...

02bunced — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:21:51 +0000

Sites that use AJAX:

maps.google.com
mail.google.com
gtraffic.info

demonhale — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 05:06:00 +0000

Why is that jeeves? I found that link to an actual Ajax developer site as an example, but then again Im new at this, I may have even been using and making AJAX sites even though I dont know it was AJAX...

bja888 — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:22:15 +0000

We shall continue the ajax.net debate in a new thread I will be starting shortly about visual web developer 2005

JeevesBond — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:03:58 +0000

Errr, well .NET is server side whereas AJAX is - not only a type of bleach in this country - client side, ergo the two may work together but are not the same or in competition with each.

I'm really not sure what all the fuss is about, that site you've got a link to demonhale is not an "AJAX" site, that being a misnomer. It might use AJAX but in 5 minutes of messing around I have seen nothing that indicates it is, it's using a load of Javascript, but that's not the same thing!

AJAX is being able to send and recieve data to/from a server without having to do a refresh of the page. This uses Javascript (although not from any particular standard, this is about as close as the W3C have got: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-DOM-Level-3-LS-20040407/) that throws data in the form of XML to the server, that throws data back in the form of XML.

ASP and then a .NET application would be on the server side of this equation, AJAX on the client-side.

bja888 — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:06:54 +0000

I plan on checking out what .net has to offer... Haven't looked that deep yet.