eastlobe — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:07:42 +0000

Ok, it's all figured out now, ie. only the issue of non-indexing by Google but indexing by all others! Google is smart, and it studies the 'pattern' of source file mod dates over a period and makes its own determinationn if the site is substantially still "under construction"! If so it holds off. Way back when I started this thread, and until about 3.6 weeks ago, I was meddling at the site near continually, hah!

chrishirst — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:29:32 +0000

Is it less than a year old ?

Update: breakthrough occurred

eastlobe — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:52:41 +0000

Again I want to thank everyone. I don't know the why, but all of a sudden, yesterday or the day before, site:babala.org is now successfully indexed and appearing in Google searches. Great!

still mystified

eastlobe — Fri, 09 Dec 2005 21:06:31 +0000

I'd like to get back to this issue, now that I've gotten hold of a copy of our site's htaccess.txt, if that might help.. here are the operative lines from it:

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule ^(.*) index.php

To recap: over 6 long months, Google has not indexed our site at all, even though we've submitted it and provided a sitemap.xml. I am NOT moaning about our Google search results position mind you; a search for "site:www.babala.org" at Google results in "no information available" message! [Note: other search engines picked up on our site readily, early on.] I fear that google has trouble spidering our site, just as the commercial software "CoffeeCup Sitemapper" is UNable to spider our site for some reason (confirmed by a tech of their's). The foregoing is a concern, but also a concern, and the topic of this thread, is that NONE of the common browsers can cache the pages of our site, for some reason... they just plain refuse to render any part of the site from cache memory, when in Offline mode.

I can't talk at length with the main site admin about all this because he's already tried his damndest to correct what's wrong, and he's horribly busy; and distant. Our site is concocted using Mambo (4.5.2), and it's rigged to employ SEF URLs supposedly. Visit babala.org and see if your browser caches it correctly and can render it later from memory alone. 'Not likely.

I just thought that my having finally gotten hold of the htaccess.txt might provide a new clue, to those of you who are extremely knowledgeable. I have full FTP access to the site now, and if there's other stuff there that would help to solve this mystery, I'll fetch it for posting here.

Thanks again! And special thanks to Busy for trying pretty hard to get across to me.

BTW: try the free game.. it'll have you tearing your hair out

demonhale — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:42:43 +0000

I prefer demonhale its less vulgar... LOL

eastlobe — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:09:09 +0000

Thanks demonhale, that's a splendid referral! (may I call you demonhole? it flips more twigs)

demonhale — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:04:58 +0000

Maybe theirs a solution for you here at this link,

http://www.mambers.com/printthread.php?t=4510

or join their forums and mostly they discuss about mambo

eastlobe — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:55:11 +0000

demonhale wrote: ... using mambo, I guess I read somewhere ...theres a bunch of options on the panel that can deny a robot to access it .. look for it exactly coz maybe thats it...

No, look at our page source: robots are expressly welcomed.

Banned by Google? far-fetched.. check on it? no way how.. though I read something somewhere about google disdaining certain Web 'neighborhoods' .. what's a nerd to know anyway? they also claimed they refuse to index sites with URLs containing "&id=" -- yeah! ..and we used to have those and changed to SEF style and resubmitted but ..nothing. CoffeeCup can't spider it. Browsers can't cache it. Google is blind to it. babala.org

demonhale — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:26:24 +0000

at least your on yahoo, so I guess the problem that google doesnt like your site, or maybe your banned or something, cared to check on that? Next since your using mambo, I guess I read somewhere in their panel to prevent SEO or something like that, theres a bunch of options on the panel that can deny a robot to access it (there is im sure ive seen the panel) just look for it exactly coz maybe thats it...

eastlobe — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:17:04 +0000

eastlobe wrote: Don't give up on this thread.

I've now shifted this enigma to the back alley heap. It's not a happenin'. As was just suggested by Busy, it may take quite a bit of work. I did inquire of the guy on site in CzechRep. and he claims that he did attempt to configure mod rewrite so that URLs would go right to the slash qualifier specs after the domain name, and "index.php" would disappear. But he says he met with "some bug" that prevented his success at that. There's a language barrier and distance barrier and the Guy is very very busy and has many other priorities, including family, and for the sake of a freeware site, no, this is as far as it goes. Hey, but thanks for the leg up!