bja888 — Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:42:29 +0000

Fallow up...
I started from scratch and created the whole design and then added the content to find no... IE does not understand height....
http://www.bja888.com/blog/postArchive.aspx
This page was intended to stay mostly blank but I needed to make the table 500 pixles high so it would look right.
Row one - 20 pixels
Row two - 20 pixels
Row three - 50 pixels
Row Four - No value

Onece again IE does not take into consideration the hight valuse and mave every row 125 pixels.
Was supposed to be at 40 pixels is now at 250.
I had to put in a 400 pixel spacer to make it look closer to normal.

F**K Microsoft Internet Explorer!

demonhale — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:41:03 +0000

Ive been in this dillema before... I just suck it up and decided to learn as much as I could to become effective for my needs... You can Do It!!! Go Go Go! Fire in the Hole!

bja888 — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:38:30 +0000

Welll that f***ing s**ks. I been useing tables for like 3 years now. They really only started to let me down in xhtml.

demonhale — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:42:16 +0000

Third This! Anyways you can combine CSS and tables if you can be be patient enough, see the template I posted for review as an example of this, the client coded it in table and didnt lay-out quite as he expected, I corrected it then use a combination of CSS where now it looks ok...

JeevesBond — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:03:53 +0000

chrishirst wrote: Use them for their correct purpose, tabular data, and use appropriate markup for layout.

I second that motion - we've had countless debates about this here in the past though, have a feeling am about to start another one

chrishirst — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 06:16:47 +0000

Quote: seroiusly... are tables really that bad?

As you have found out they don't always work as expected, the reason being they were never meant to be used for layout.

Use them for their correct purpose, tabular data, and use appropriate markup for layout.

bja888 — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 01:53:06 +0000

I'm going to try to make it 2 tables... ty for the help

demonhale — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 01:42:44 +0000

Hey I see the problem, I looked into it and you have a floating element or non existing cell on the body part which stretches the left nav, then pushing the table up... This is difficult to fix unless you recode the whole thing and being creful with the use of tables, or code everything in CSS to make it all work out...

Heres a bit of tip... Make a backup of the original html file, then open it in frontpage to see what part of your table has the problems...

bja888 — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 01:37:28 +0000

seroiusly... are tables really that bad?

chrishirst — Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:22:53 +0000

Bit of playing time

http://www.candsdesign.co.uk/demo/bja/