CptAwesome — Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:29:46 +0000

Well, since it uses Javascript to calculate things like visit length and that it's quite possible the 0:00s simply don't support the javascript you're using.

steve40 — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:50:01 +0000

Yep: they do, look at this.

Domain Name 2MNJZ01 (Unknown)
IP Address 68.219.133.# (ARIN)
Language Setting English
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 6.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; ESB{569DEE8D-7EEA-415C-ABF1-FF775A24F8CE}; SV1)
Time of Visit Jun 18 2005 1:13:21 am
Last Page View Jun 18 2005 1:14:04 am
Visit Length 43 seconds
Page Views 2
Referring URL http://www.google.co...en&lr=&start=40&sa=N
Search Engine: google.com
Search Words: blue ridge mountain photos

Visit Entry Page http://blueridgesnaps.50webs.com/
Visit Exit Page http://blueridgesnaps.50webs.com/
Time Zone UTC-5:00
EST - Eastern Standard
EDT - Eastern Daylight Saving Time
Visitor's Time Jun 18 2005 1:13:21 am
Visit Number 264

demonhale — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:14:13 +0000

I guess cookies planted by these site meters never record the time unless it reaches a full minute... Most surfers unless they type up or your site is read a lot would move through pages quite fast... I guess we need to write some letters to their tech support and ask them...

steve40 — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:18:42 +0000

I have seen Sitemeter record some bots before, but not often. But the sample below is another O hit, not from a bot.

Domain Name charter.com ? (Commercial)
IP Address 24.179.23.# (ARIN - Cable Block)
Language Setting English
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Opera
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.0
Time of Visit Jun 18 2005 12:52:56 pm
Last Page View Jun 18 2005 12:52:56 pm
Visit Length 0 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URL http://www.google.co...ake+powhatan&spell=1
Search Engine: google.com
Search Words: photos of lake powhatan

Visit Entry Page http://blueridgesnaps.50webs.com/
Visit Exit Page
Time Zone UTC-5:00
EST - Eastern Standard
EDT - Eastern Daylight Saving Time
Visitor's Time Jun 18 2005 12:52:56 pm
Visit Number 265

AyntRyte — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:33:37 +0000

I don't think Site Meter records spider hits (perhaps an upgrade account does?). Here's an example of a zero visit length hit:

Domain Name verizon.net ? (Network)
IP Address 71.110.26.# (IANA - Reserved)
Language Setting English
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 6.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
Time of Visit Jun 18 2005 10:45:05 am
Last Page View Jun 18 2005 10:45:05 am
Visit Length 0 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URL http://www.google.co...en&lr=&start=10&sa=N
Search Engine: google.com
Search Words: cinnamon swirl french toast

chrishirst — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:29:31 +0000

Quote: Yes but you don't get 10 -12 visits a day from webbots.

I agree there, 10 - 12 visits a day from a SE bots is very low. obviously not a very well linked site then I would guess.

BTW bots don't wait for graphics to load or external files etc they pull the source code and leave, so their "on-site" time can be measured in milli-seconds

steve40 — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:59:19 +0000

Yes but you don't get 10 -12 visits a day from webbots. The meter will record the IP, and other information from the hits; this shows it's an actual visitor. But the strange thing I was pointing out, is why do they bother to even visit for 0.00 amount of time.
I don't even bother with sites I know I am not interested in. And if I do visit a site, I will usually look at at least a page or two. I may not be there a full minute, but Site Meter will record the time of visits like that. 0.00 means they fly just as the page is loading, maybe even before the last graphic! has loaded. Now: why do they even bother?.

chrishirst — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:18:09 +0000

SE crawlers only land on one page and leave, and it only takes a fraction of a second to retrieve the source

steve40 — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:32:46 +0000

The counter I am now using does not provide for that. I tried one that would, but the crazy thing double counted the visitor hits. I haven't looked around for another.

AyntRyte — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:27:40 +0000

I see that alot also, but have no explaination. Have you thought about adding the counter to all your pages? It really would give you a bigger picture on all of your traffic.