dataNdesigns — Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:41:58 +0000

demonhale, I dont have an older threat about my site, that is one of my customers sites. Also I didnt post my site to be reviewed, I posted it for design ideas for my new site, as you can see I had a problem with my old site and now rebuilding it for the new one. Simply looking for ideas and thoughts for design on our new site.

As for Awards, we won them end of story, in the awards area we will post information informing visitors that it was for the old site, but regardless, we still won, and hopefully this site will be by far better and produce better results. I think you still my be missing the point with the content management system as it is that which is helping us win them in the first place not just a basic site design.

the green arrow thingy is as standard in the content management system as all the menus are dynamic and build themselves, and we keep it in their unless the customer chooses somthing else, most of our customers like it.

As for industry standards, we do promote it, css if just another form, but there as so many backyard developers over here with no experience making the most basic of mistakes that we try to promote customer awareness.

The papers are filled with people who have just gone and brought a copy of dreamweaver and are calling themselves web developers! It makes me sick they wouldnt even know the first thing about the code or even what ASP, PHP, or Perl is. Of course this is ok to learn and begin but no to go out to the public and say they are professionals. We have rebuild so many sites now for people who had already paid a supposed developer to build it and they stuffed it up.

Anyway out of all that I guess you can now see why I am upgrading my home site, considering the hits we get I think it is long overdue..

demonhale — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:08:51 +0000

Dang! I have to wait quite a while for a splash page to load with robot to jump to tell me to enter the site...
Unless its a Music Site I usually mute my sound... Good Thing for me Here Steve... Early Morning Sunrise, No noise, just a bunch of robots bouncing around...
If youve read the other critiqe threads, splash pages arent really needed...
In a good note, its good that youve posted up your "awards"...
I also read in your page somewhere "strongly believes in industry regulation", CSS is industry regulation, in web coding i imply...
I also guess your trademark is the green arrow thingy for all your pages?, as commented before, it looks like XP butts...
Any Moderators out there may move this thread, coz your older thread about your site is still "live"...
Looks better than the old one though, now megan told me before that they dont put stock on web awards, but some people might so its a good thing...
Now if this site is new... when was it awarded? Is this the look that was awarded?...

steve40 — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:43:07 +0000

You got me, this stuff behaves crazy. I had a script in the head of my page, for a short wav camera click. It would validate in W3C, and WDG. But in Site Valet, I don't remember who this thing belongs to, it wont pass.

But after everybody gave me a hard time about the simple little "click" sound, I took it out. Well it also made the page load a little faster without it. Strangely though you could place it between the end head tag, and the body start tag, where it still works. And then it would pass. But I don't like putting it there in never, never, land.

dataNdesigns — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:31:30 +0000

Ok this is really bizzar!!! I have put a couple of "if" statments in so if it detects motzilla and useds the embed tag in the object, and removes it in other browsers.

Before the page would not validate with the embed tag in ie, but when its in motzilla it validates! how confusing!!

Browser wars suck!

dataNdesigns — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:04:41 +0000

Still got to change the robot movie on the main page and remove the sound but just using it for a place holder, the site should be cross browser compatable, have checked in firefox, mozilla and opera.

But as soon as I put in the code to use the flash element for motzilla, it dosent pass w3c.

Anyone got any thoughts on this'?

steve40 — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:42:42 +0000

I don't think so, but then again I like black and red. Now on the serious side, the gray area gives it a good balance. Although if you look at a web color scheme generator, red is only an active link color with black. But I don't agree with web color scheme generators, on half of their suggestions. Most are to dull.

dataNdesigns — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:20:57 +0000

LOL - oh yes, is it too much black and red?

steve40 — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:09:07 +0000

I actually found a way to stretch mine, and hold the content the way it is. By using table %, and a fixed pixel arrangement on some of the coulombs. But I don't trust it to remain the same on other browsers. Wouldn't it be nice if everybody would just get along, and use IE.

steve40 — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:56:00 +0000

8x6 is still what is recommended. I'm on a 19" and I don't see any excessive black. In fact the designs wording is actually cut in half on my monitor, so I am not seeing the full page. It might be my bovine (cow) monitor though.

dataNdesigns — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:46:35 +0000

I gonna loose the idea of a flash banner at the top and just run with the graphic for now, I hate the big black space on the right hand side but, I have to build it for 800x600, (which sux) But Im viewing it on a 21" and the gap is massive, I was thinking of making it strech the page, but it brings in too many issues with browsers and content management system.

So - in the black area on the right I want to put something there that is part of the background image, any ideas?