Your kung fu too big

StraitNoChaser — Thu, 10 Mar 2005 05:32:32 +0000

Sure takes a long time to load on my 1m connection

heebiejeebieclu — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 16:41:31 +0000

I am going to have a string of random but hopefully popular sites. If there are any gaps in what people want, i will fill them. will keep you posted (excuse the pun)

Megan — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 15:05:21 +0000

heebiejeebieclu wrote: so do you think i should close the site down until i get more experienced? Perhaps webmaster a few forums/sites and learn php like you said?

That sounds like a good idea. You could also change the focus of the site and make it a personal site or a blog or something. I'm finding that I'm learning a lot by blogging about my learning experiences. Having a personal site would allow you to experiment with a lot of stuff too.

openmind — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 11:47:53 +0000

heebiejeebieclu wrote: I think you are right. Even if i don't have a design business that doesn't mean i have to give up webmastering. I already have one forum. I could just be a webmaster until I aquire more saleable skills.

I think that would a perfect solution. Once you have built up the experience then reconsider selling your services. In the mean time you will gain valuable experience and understanding without risk and I gurantee you will not only enjoy it more but benefit it from it!

Good luck and although I have been critical, advice from all of us here at TWF will never be far away...

heebiejeebieclu — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 11:44:04 +0000

so do you think i should close the site down until i get more experienced? Perhaps webmaster a few forums/sites and learn php like you said?

I think you are right. Even if i don't have a design business that doesn't mean i have to give up webmastering. I already have one forum. I could just be a webmaster until I aquire more saleable skills.

Everyone agree?

simcom — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 10:31:59 +0000

The first thing that strikes me, is the text 'professional web design' on the image at the top is a little lost against the white fading. I like the principle of the site though - very clean and easy to use in general.

nicora — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 08:46:08 +0000

wow, twf just layed into your stuff, buddy. take it from me, listen to the advice here, sometimes it may not seem like the right thing, but trust me it is. gl

kthxbye

Megan — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 02:24:04 +0000

Heebie,

I think what Phil means to say is that doing paid web design work is a skilled trade. Contrary to popuar belief, it is not something that anyone can do, it is not easy, and it isn't even all that much fun. Even some of us with years of experience don't feel capable enough as designers or as business people to be offering web design for sale. I personally feel that it's extremely unethical to be selling a product that I know isn't of top quality.

Please don't take this too personally - it is something that happens a lot around here and we just happen to be picking on you . Web development has a repuation for being easy and a quick money maker. It's not. Even if you have a good idea like the founders of yahoo and google did, you need the skills to back it up. In other industries this wouldn't happen. If you were to pick up, say, carpentry, you wouldn't go trying to sell your stuff after only a few piddly home projects, would you? It's the same thing.

The other thing is that unsuspecting clients may believe that they can get a good quality product for bargain basement prices. They've heard the rumors about how easy it is to design a website. So they could fall for it. Too bad for them, because they'll end up having to pay Phil to fix it for them

There's nothing wrong with working for free (as long as those you are working for understand that you're a beginner), or working on personal projects, or team projects with friends. There is a lot you can do with that. And that's okay. There is a lot to learn about web design or development. Become a photoshop whiz. Learn everything there is to know about PHP. Take a programming course. Get a book on graphic design. Build the best fan site on the web for your favourite (celebrity, sports team, tv show, etc.)

It's okay to take time learning - you've got time. What's not okay is trying to sell unsuspecting customers a substandard product. And if you can't see the difference between your site and the site of a good quality designer (like phil), I don't know what else to say.

Busy — Sat, 05 Mar 2005 20:24:18 +0000

Index page:
The 'services' and 'portfolio' images aren't clickable (design image is).
The logo and image sections don't line up
The text links at the bottom are to small and to close to the images
Is is Tac or TOS ?
The whole thing is yelling it needs more space

portfolio:
broken image, second one down and the link is http://www.btinternet.com/~music.crush/(EmptyReference!)

I don't think the green goes with the gradient, but each to their own.
The font, especially for the heading (topics) needs a bit more oompf, maybe just loose the > and make them bold

heebiejeebieclu — Sat, 05 Mar 2005 20:10:30 +0000

All my clients I will treat with respect and I will not leave them mid-job. I do take it seriously - all my clients will get all due care and attention