KarenArt — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:48:12 +0000

Saurons Vault wrote: photoshop is expensive when you know where to get it for free

Shhhhhh!.... you're not supposed to talk about those boards... the walls have ears.

pui, I'm not sure what the banner program is doing to make the text clearer. Maybe someone with more photoshop experience than I have knows some tricks to crisp up the text.
...but sometimes it's not important how you got it to work... just that it works.
Enjoy!

fusioncroc — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:28:54 +0000

photoshop is expensive when you know where to get it for free

pui — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 09:30:57 +0000

KarenArt - I used 'Arial' font on both softwares. It turns out to be the banner's is sharper and clearer.

Thanks for the link and reply.

KarenArt — Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:06:57 +0000

I'm not sure if it's Photoshop's fault.
Perhaps the banner making software was using a different font which was designed to look good at a small size.

Take at look at the page at http://www.wpdfd.com/pixelfonts.htm

Regardless, I'm glad you found something that worked for you!
Enjoy the banner making. Be careful... it can be an addictive habit.

pui — Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:03:12 +0000

Thanks everyone and KarenArt.

In my surprise, A cheap banner making software did the job with the fonts way sharper and clearer than Photoshop ! But the limitations of cheap banner softwares is that you cannot freely arrange the texts and graphics. Hope Photoshop developers will pay more attention to the 'small' fonts feature in terms of sharpness and clarity. If some cheap banner making softwares can handle the job then an EXPENSIVE Photoshop should do it even better ...

KarenArt — Sun, 29 Aug 2004 13:40:31 +0000

In my experience, you just aren't going to be able to get a crisp, readable font when it's that small. It might be that my eyes aren't good enough anymore, but 11pt is the smallest I can go to still retain readability.

Sometimes you can "cheat" a little to make the text seem clearer by increasing your spacing.
Here's the difference... the first one is strait arial with nothing done to it. The second one is exactly the same except the spacing has been increased to 50.

For me the 9 and 10 pt are still too hard to read, but others may not have a problem with it.

You can increase (or decrease) your letter spacing through the character window by changing the number in the option circled here.

Why don't you show us what you have. The crispness and readability of your text depends a lot on the colors and/or images you're using as well.

Hope that helps some!

pui — Sun, 29 Aug 2004 08:59:33 +0000

i usually use arial (8 or 9 pt) no effects just red colour
i view it the original size (100%)
72 or 96 pixel / inch because banner is for web use only

Roo — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:37:41 +0000

Make sure you are viewing it at 100%. If you are zoomed out the text will appear to be nasty looking when it really isn't.

Aloha

Skip Wiley — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:40:56 +0000

PC standard is 72 dpi, the Mac is 96 dpi...
this is why the fonts on a Mac appear about 2 points less than the size on the PC.

At least thats how mine work

KarenArt — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:38:48 +0000

Lots of factors can influence how your font will come out.
What font are you using?
What size are you using?
Are you resizing it or doing any special text effects?

I usually like crisp for my fonts, but there's been a couple of occasions where strong worked better.

on a side note... why 92dpi?
I have 3 sizes I save at. 72 for web, 300 for print and 1200 for artwork prints. Is there something (else) I don't know about saving at 92?