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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Oh I am... lol...&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 23:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;how&#039;s about is looking better, lol. Clearer, a more concise and more easily conveyed concept. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope you&#039;re making lots of copies... &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/wink.png&quot; title=&quot;Wink&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 22:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;I suck at graphics so I&#039;m useless here lol but the scope line on the &#039;e&#039; on some of them is making the &#039;e&#039; hard to read, either make the traget scope wider or smaller&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 22:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;*playing* &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/tongue.png&quot; title=&quot;Sticking out tongue&quot; alt=&quot;Sticking out tongue&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If anyone feels the desire to play around, you can access the components I&#039;m using to make this and whip something up by right clicking &lt;a href=&quot;http://www31.brinkster.com/mikejeannotte/Logo.zip&quot; class=&quot;bb-url&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt; and clicking &quot;Save Target As...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you mean like this:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;http://www31.brinkster.com/mikejeannotte/pic4.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; class=&quot;bb-image&quot; /&gt; ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or how&#039;s about this:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;http://www31.brinkster.com/mikejeannotte/pic5.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; class=&quot;bb-image&quot; /&gt; ?&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 19:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Perhaps put the text BELOW the target? Instead of over it? And line up the cross-bar on the right with the horizontal stroke in the e? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do play. &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/wink.png&quot; title=&quot;Wink&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 18:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;I had considered that, but my main opposition is size...  If I make the target big enough to enclose the entire word, it becomes too big for visibility, and I don&#039;t want to enlarge the overall size... Lemme toss it around in Photoshop a bit and I&#039;ll post my results in just a little bit...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, the other reason I had it in it&#039;s current position, is to show the perspective...  The target is surrounding the word, but it&#039;s not easy to create the illusion of something going behind the word without redrawing it in place, at least not that I know of...  If you&#039;ve an easier way, let me know, I&#039;d be very interested in hearing...  Would make things a hell of a lot easier on me...&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 17:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;If you love, need the grid, put it above the navbar entirely. It wouldn&#039;t be entirely inappropriate with your heading?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for the shadow on that red target, it&#039;s getting better, lol. You do want a shadow for perspective but if the shadow is the main thing you see (and it&#039;s not a shadow of something funny, but rather a shadow that hides), that&#039;s not so good. Things are very subjective, but also most design touches are subtle. You want people to see the target, not the dark shadow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While I&#039;m on the target, I would like it to actually be targeting something. At the moment it targets &quot;Targ&quot;... ?! Targ? What&#039;s a targ? My subconscious mind is curious, but also feels a disconnect with the site. Ideally, it would target something in particular, say, ZION. Or possibly the whole word &quot;target&quot;. Since you have the little targets in the Zion and Studio, perhaps the whole word target would be better, anyway?&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 15:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Here it is in all it&#039;s glory... Faded the shadow out more, extended the button margin...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www31.brinkster.com/mikejeannotte/pic3.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; class=&quot;bb-image&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 14:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Yeah, I&#039;m dreading the &#039;contact us&#039; button thing... I&#039;ve been meaning to get at it for awhile, but it requires changing the table sizes, and just about every other size involved with the site...  I&#039;m not looking forward to it, but it&#039;ll happen sooner or later...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*Turns back around where the Drawing Board leers at me with devilish eyes of death*&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 13:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;THat looks okay but could still use some improvement.  The best thing you could do for this would be to find a more unique font for the logo text.  That would be a massive improvement.  The other problem I see is the right hand side.  That curve with the URL doesn&#039;t look good at all.  I don&#039;t have any brilliant ideas as to what you could put there.  You could go for a minimalist look and leave it blank.  Or, make that target really big, fade it out into the background, and have it poking up above the navbar...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also do something about that checkered background so it doesn&#039;t stop in the middle of nowhere.  And bump the &quot;contact us&quot; in a little bit so that the margin is the same as it is on the other side of the navbar (beside &quot;home&quot;).  The problem with the shadow is that it&#039;s too dark, that&#039;s all.  Check your filter settings to change that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edit: This was written as you were posting the updated versions above.  The second option looks better with the shadow and faded grid.  Although, I don&#039;t see why it needs to be there anyway...&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 13:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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