Suzanne — Sat, 20 Mar 2004 05:00:24 +0000

Sorry, the scrollbar is CSS2 as well. Well, okay, only the "gray" area. It only really WORKS in MSIE, though, does that help?

m3rajk — Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:52:07 +0000

i didn't realize it was in css2. i know that the scrollbar thing is MIE and one ofthe css ref sites claims that's the same witht he cursor.. at least it did last time i checked.

Suzanne — Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:08:54 +0000

There is a difference between what will work, and what is standard.

http://www.pageresource.com/dhtml/csstut10.htm

Regardless, cursor is part of the spec for CSS2.

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/ui.html

m3rajk — Fri, 19 Mar 2004 23:36:35 +0000

suzanne: in css1 and i belive 2, both scrollbar and cursor weren't present. i haven't seen css3 even though mozilla 1.6 supports the prelims.

Suzanne — Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:02:56 +0000

If by cross-browser you mean in all browsers, use Flash. However in all browsers that support it, CSS will work. Some CSS cursor: works for Mozilla types, as well, it's not just MSIE.

brady.k — Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:38:06 +0000

i mean in crossbrowser

Suzanne — Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:52:51 +0000

see the link already provided, perhaps this?:

cursor: crosshair;'

brady.k — Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:37:56 +0000

well, I knew that...

But since you brought it up, how can I link to not show up as a hand (I use links' mouseover to scroll text)?

m3rajk — Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:57:19 +0000

note: it's not bad to do that stuff, it's bad to assume everyone will see it.

you have to remember that if a browser ddoesn't conform to the stanards you're using thn it may look differently and function different;y. if you want a wide variety of eople, then you should use w3c standards. opera and mozilla and netscape are all nearly compleltey compliant (mozilla being the closest to compliant last i checked)

m3rajk — Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:54:55 +0000

just an fyi: the cursor stuff is mie only. just like the scroll bar. remember, m$ refuses to conform to any standards they don't set (if even those), so stuff for them isn't always going to work elsewhere: hence jscript which is all mie does which was a rip off of the already present javascript and the standards created edma-954 (the standards thing was developed around the same time and i tossed on a few numbers since they are there, not even sure i spelt the acronym right, just trying to make a point.)