Vincent Puglia — Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:08:27 +0000

Hi,

Since I didn't see any navigational elements at either of the two urls you posted I'm somewhat confused. However, if you simply wish to alter things 'randomly', why don't you place the random elements within divs and/or iframes (ilayer for NN4) and then swap the content whenever you wish? The url would remain the same, yet the content would change.

Vinny

sL|De — Tue, 16 Mar 2004 07:02:12 +0000

well, im home from work... and turns out that image rotator works perfect...

http://lacota.net/moo3outpost/pointofpresence to see the results, you may need to refresh it a few times to see the difference. It'll do until i get good at flash.

id like to thank everyone for all your help... great community here, and ill definetly be sticking around. Thanks again

sL|De

sL|De — Tue, 16 Mar 2004 03:10:15 +0000

well the nav "bar" stays relatively the same, nothing with the actual navigation changes between the two pages... its just the section teaser (good term suzanne) that really changes.

The nav picture, has a little chunk of that section teaser on it (thats because the drop shadow there will be screwed up if it doesnt)... so if the section teaser pic changes, the nav has to change accordingly... the actual navigation doesnt change... just the little bit below it, so it can match the section teaser... hope that came out right

if you go into the images folder... and look at nav1.gif, nav2.gif, refresh1.gif, and refresh2.gif... you should see what i mean

http://lacota.net/moo3outpost/pointofpresence

Suzanne — Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:01:40 +0000

Making a new page? No no, I mean that the navigation should be stable. Those pieces you want to have change look like navigation. If they aren't, the design is wrong. If they are, then don't make them random.

If you want to advertise that there are other sections, use a random news display or something, but keep the main navigation parts solid so that yourdomain.com/service.html is the same every time I go there. But yourdomain.com could have small "ads" instead of the section navigation that are random images.

I think you need to rethink what you're trying to do. Having randomized advertisements or section teasers is fine, but not the main navigation, which is what that big centre piece looks like.

sL|De — Tue, 16 Mar 2004 01:56:36 +0000

so im back to my original problem unless i wanna make the nav, and the image below, one big image... dont really wanna do that... but if it comes down it that i will.... any other suggestions?

Suzanne — Tue, 16 Mar 2004 01:48:26 +0000

If the nav and the background image are changing together, that's called a new page. Do NOT randomize the navigation!

sL|De — Tue, 16 Mar 2004 01:42:45 +0000

wow, that should be perfect... but (theres always a but)... the nav and the big image below it both have to change together, but they are both seperate table bg's. If this rotator is random, and not sequenced, there could be complications (nav1 might be with image2, which wouldnt look right.... and vice versa) Im at work right now, so i cant test myself, thats why im asking so many questions thanks again for all your help

Suzanne — Tue, 16 Mar 2004 01:14:42 +0000

And if you want to use server-side technologies, things like http://www.hiveware.com/imagerotator.php can be used easily in backgrounds or images.

Mark Hensler — Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:44:36 +0000

Ya.... JS image rotators are the best option. Keep the home page URL the same, and prevent confusion.

Suzanne — Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:20:08 +0000

You can use image rotators anywhere. Even in a table background. For what you want, it would be better not do it, though. That's main navigation! You don't want to randomize that?! If it's not navigation, whoa, it sure does look like it.