residual2 — Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:24:08 +0000

Ok after 3 days and 40 posts the front page is finally finished !! omg. heh still cant validate the height bit, but no worries only 1 error, id really like to thank Jeeves, Mistress and Suzanne and especially to Abhishek who stayed up till 3am in IRC helping me hes a damn legend so now its onto the login and php ...omg here we go again once again thanks everyone. Btw site is here if u wanna check it out.

JeevesBond — Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:27:27 +0000

Personally use the code view in Dreamweaver, it is a very good text editor by itself
The underling problem to this is the junk code your editor has generated, although not as bad as Frontpage or Word, it still impedes your learning.

Abishek is right - Start off by learning HTML the right way!

Abhishek Reddy — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:47:07 +0000

It really depends on who your target audience is. If you're aiming for, or including, say, disabled/impaired people in your audience, then you'll want the site to be 100% valid and also compliant with accessibility guidelines. If you're going for techy people who have and use the latest software, then you can be a little more lenient with the validation. And so on.

Sometimes the validator brings up unrealistic or very nitpicky errors that may be able to ignore, but it's usually possible to come clean on everything.

Imho, the best editor is any good text editor. I build and edit my sites manually. Helps me learn more and get to know the code better. But some others would recommend Macromedia's Dreamweaver because it can produce standard and valid code... there's quite a bit to it. Search the forums for previous discussions on the matter.

residual2 — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:30:58 +0000

Does it really 100% matter if its validated....like only one error :/ but is there also anyway to expand the page so i dont have the white line down the bottom where the page ends, also what kind of editor do u recommend ?

JeevesBond — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:27:37 +0000

Good point Julia!
Be careful with WYSIWYG editors as well, as it stands your site is 10 times more complicated than it should be, and as you can see: Doesn't validate! It will be far easier for you to learn how to code if you use a decent editor, instead of trying to decipher the mess your current one has created!

residual2 — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:24:25 +0000

Ok.....i give up this is just annoying now, i delete the height attribute preview it on localdisk its fine then upload it, go to validate and its been changed to height="1000%" so i do it again making sure theres no height="1000%" and it still screws up so i changed it to style height: 100%" and its all fine but then i upload and it changes it again to height="1000%" but without the style........omg someone help me on this

residual2 — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:30:40 +0000

For some reason when i just tried to validate index4, it came up with the height being 1000%, yet i took it out so i tryed again and reuploaded and its still coming up as 1000% no idea why it would be doing that.

residual2 — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:27:40 +0000

yeah ? it looks all weird to me, the actual version with the 100% in is http://residual2.t35.com/index3.html and the one without the 100% is http://residual2.t35.com/index4.html

The Webmistress — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:24:40 +0000

To be honest my advise would be for you to try and simplify your design so that you don't need background to fill spaces. Get a simple design done, validate the code, sort out the css and get the content added. Once you have done this then you can move on to more complex designs with the basics of a good site under your belt.

JeevesBond — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:14:02 +0000

Host is ok now... I have taken a look, and all seems fine. If you put some content into the main part of the page it'll stretch down to fill the gap.