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    <description> &lt;p&gt;oh for pete&#039;s sake!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;fiesty_01 left you two links that do it in your other thread. you don&#039;t use BOTH text-align and margins unless you want it all centered. margins for block level, text-align for inline!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;for the borders, learn to set ids.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;table#thisone {&lt;br /&gt;
border-collapse: collapse;&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;table#thisone td {&lt;br /&gt;
border-collapse: collapse;&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for your JavaScript, there is so much of it I can&#039;t even grasp it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How about trying more specific questions? And less code dumping. A link to working pages works VERY well. PLEASE do not link between threads, it&#039;s just confusing and clearly you&#039;re not reading the responses very well because this question has been answered repeatedly.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2003 06:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;and this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macedition.net/cb/resources/tableCSStest.html&quot; class=&quot;bb-url&quot;&gt;http://www.macedition.net/cb/resources/tableCSStest.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2003 23:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Ah, here it is again...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2003_09.html#a000203&quot; class=&quot;bb-url&quot;&gt;http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2003_09.html#a000203&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And a quick spin around Google for &quot;css+tables&quot; gets me this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.htmlcenter.com/tutorials/tutorials.cfm/61/CSS/&quot; class=&quot;bb-url&quot;&gt;http://www.htmlcenter.com/tutorials/tutorials.cfm/61/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2003 23:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;re: borders&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;border-collapse&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, see the link I posted somewhere in this huge amount of text to a post at webstandards.org that links to four or five pages on how to do tables (and borders) in CSS.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2003 23:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;boy, I get to repeat myself a lot!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;to align a block level element, you need to use margins. for inline level elements, you use text-align. as usual, IE has its own rules, which may require using one of the many many hacks out there to hide instructions from IE.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;margin-left: auto;&lt;br /&gt;
margin-right: auto;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That centers boxes within their containers.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2003 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Is the &lt;strong&gt;align=&quot;center&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; declaration deprecated?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for the bgcolor, if I&#039;m not mistaken, I think it may just be something like this in the CSS:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;td {&lt;br /&gt;
background-color: #??????;&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not finding ANY way to center a table on a page with CSS, at least not without centering everything else (text, etc.) . . . unless there&#039;s something I haven&#039;t seen yet such as this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;table {box-align: center;}&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Haven&#039;t seen any &quot;box-align&quot; things out there, though.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2003 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;In response to your first message only, I was just wondering if you had tried the following format (which doesn&#039;t have to be in the CSS) for the tables you want centered (?), rather than the HTML  and  tags:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for the borders, for me, I&#039;m finding it much easier to use the following format, using bgcolors to form what appear to be borders (but are actually just the bgcolors), and this has removed the need for a &quot;border&quot; tag completely:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Text Goes Here)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Text Goes Here)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The above would be a centered, 2-column (or td) table, one at 20% width, the other at 80% width, both with centered text, with a white (#ffffff) background color in each and what would appear to be a blue (#0000ff) border which would appear to go all around the table AND the td&#039;s (columns).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry, but the javascript part would be better tackled by someone else. &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/smile.png&quot; title=&quot;Smiling&quot; alt=&quot;Smiling&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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