m3rajk — Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:52:38 +0000

used to have it on the test page mentioned for css. i think it's still set up like that. just edited it to include a table
http://24.91.157.113/findyourdesire/zhtmlsetup.html

Suzanne — Sun, 05 Oct 2003 02:12:35 +0000

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m3rajk — Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:14:07 +0000

i've noticed that while the class is ignored in div on mozilla, it's utelyzed by ie

m3rajk — Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:44:35 +0000

actually the inital question wasn't realated to centering. lol.

and yes, i see where stating i was using it for a div the first time was a little less than well phrased (ok, a lot less)

my browser is mozilla 1.3.1

well that's the one i'm doing the primary testing in. unfortunately ie has reclaimed default on me again i hate M$ and it's insistence that it has to be all the defaults. i figure with the ie end of life announcement, i shouldn't bother using that as the primary browser to test. i'm actually going back after i have it working like i want in mozilla and making sure it's ok in ie

Suzanne — Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:35:58 +0000

1. no, an attribute that's deprecated for A tag is not necessarily deprecated for ALL tags. HOWEVER, in this case, yes, for XHTML + it's deprecated for DIV and TABLE tags (and possibly TD, but I don't use it so I've never bothered to figure that out).

2. Depends on the browser, you may have hit a glitch, but not having centered aligned TEXT is not what you were talking about! You were talking about the container being aligned center, and for that, it's margin: 0 auto 0 auto; where 0 is however much you want on the top and then on the bottom.

Provide a working page and you'll get a proper answer, and please, be as clear as possible about your questions. Posting a pile of code isn't helpful, since people then have to make their own pages to test it. Make a test page!

Or check out the VERY GOOD DEVELOPER RESOURCES I posted in earlier responses. If you're getting stuck on something too basic to be listed, the only way we'll find it is with sample broken code.

m3rajk — Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:10:44 +0000

thanx feisty. it turned out that it was calling it in table and not td.

thanx a lot for that ref sheet. i'v been using the one at w3c schools, but i like that one better, has things not mentioned in the w3cschools one (i just added yours to my bookmarks)

suzanne-

w3cschools just says it's deprecated, not that it's only deprecated for certain tags. i took that to mean that it's deprecated in ALL tags.

but that still doesn't explain why when i had a class that changed the font-face, font-color and should have set a text align of center, the class only did the first two. the text-align was ignored

fiesty_01 — Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:33:05 +0000

Quote: By m3rajk: "I don't have extensive CSS experience."

Perhaps THIS REFERENCE SHEET would be of some help.

I noticed you said {padding:0} didn't work in your CSS. On the above-mentioned reference sheet, the only shortcut I'm seeing is something like

{
padding: 5px 15px 5px 15px;
}.

Perhaps just {padding:0} will not work(?), but there seems to be many shortcuts depending on who is writing these tutorial-type things.

Anyway, the longer CSS version (not the short cut shown above), according to this reference sheet, would be something like the following:

{
padding-top: 5px;
padding-right: 15px;
padding-bottom: 5px;
padding-left: 15px;
}

Hope that (and the reference sheet) will be of some help, and good luck.
I know nothing about the PHP part, though.

Suzanne — Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:43:35 +0000

Where didn't you find anything specifically on div and classes?!

Don't mix DIV and TABLE -- that's just asking for trouble.

Edited to add: I mean for positioning. Clearly you'll have to use DIV and TABLE together for data sites and DIVs can be useful in TABLE layouts as well.

m3rajk — Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:05:43 +0000

iddn't find anything specifically on div and classes.
i know that w3cschools notes that align is deprecated.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22class%22+%22div%22+%22html%22

is the search i didn but can't find anything on why using a div with a CSS class that had "text-align:center;" was completely overlooked.

i haven't tried a diff class that didn't include that because the thing that's most crucial IS the alignment.

Suzanne — Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:08:15 +0000

http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2003_09.html#a000203 has a number of good links on how to use tables for tabular data to better effect using standards and CSS.