Roo — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:46:27 +0000

LOL......I should be really thin then, becuase I've always used anything but IE.

IMO it's the alpha transparancy that makes png magical little gem that it is. Just think! *One* image that will display flawlessly no matter what color it sits atop! It's magical!

On the other hand, you do have to be careful...unless I've done something wrong in past experimentation, quite often the file size is very much more than gif or jpeg..but then that's with png24 too, because like I said.....it's the alpha transparancy that makes it worthwhile.

ROB — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:12:57 +0000

all kinds of png info including supporting applications

Suzanne — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:48:53 +0000

I think maybe with the 7 more years of free licensing to AOL of IE as well, we're going to have to start promotional campaigns for Netscape/Mozilla and all derivatives. And Safari, et cetera.

Cool people use better browsers! Better browsers will make good looking men and women find you more attractive! Better browsers will make you thinner, live longer and get richer!

Megan — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:12:06 +0000

Yeah, and don't get us started on CSS!

In short, PNG is supported by all the major browsers. The problem is that IE doesn't support the alpha transparency, which is one of the most attractive aspects of PNG. As for file sizes, I think you have to do a lot of experimentation to see if PNG can do a better job for your particular graphic. Sometimes it can, sometimes it can't. Evolt.ord I think has a current article on the subject.

As a sidenote, I read in Zeldman's blog last week that MS doesn't plan on upgrading its browser until 2005, and even then it won't be available as a stand alone upgrade - only with their new OS, which is subscription based. So, we will be stuck with that level of support for another 2 years, and likely for considerably longer :(

Roo — Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:37:37 +0000

Came back becuase after I posted I went to the basement to smoke, thought about it and got mad.!

Not to change the direction of the thread but;

IE supports a ton of things specific only to *it*, yet doesn't support something that actually would be useful.

*Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr, Snort, Growl*

Roo — Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:14:26 +0000

God png's alpha transparancy is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! It's a shame that the one browser that the majority uses doesn't support it. .

As far as jpg vs png.......for things like photos and complex images it seems to me that jpeg still is the best compression choice.

Suzanne — Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:27:02 +0000

zoom zoom zoom! alas, 'tis not me, 'tis Google to the rescue.

Some12k — Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:49:38 +0000

Thank you for your reply. You are very fast indeed.

Suzanne — Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:32:41 +0000

http://www.google.com/search?q=png+browser+support

Some12k — Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:30:51 +0000

Thanks all for replying.

I`m not going to use transparency on my pics anyway.
Which versions of which browsers does not support .png?