DaveyBoy — Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:13:08 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by The_Oracle

DaveyBoy - does the noframes tag come after the frameset tag? If so, do I just type some normal text...

What i meant was, really nobody has a browser without frame support anymore. So because the search engines wouldn't find any information to index and reference in the frameset code, you can just add some words and links etc. into the noframes tag...

relevant text to the site and a few links

That way, nobody will ever see the info on the page (unless its about the 0.1% of people who still have IE2 or whatever) but search engines still have something to find in the index file.

Give it a go

Busy — Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:08:03 +0000

I like what you've done but agree you should try not to use frames (or image maps).

On a 800x600 screen (IE5) with google toolbar, the top image and bottom frame take up the whole screen nearly. on homepage top of bottom frame comes 1/4 way up the front door.

looking at your code it looks like you're undecided to what to code in (HTML or XHTML) as the head is HTML and bottom is XHTML.
Don't use CSS in HTML tag bits ie: width="100px" it's either width="100" or a style sheet (CSS)

JeevesBond — Fri, 07 Mar 2003 21:39:37 +0000

OS: Win2k
Browser: Netscape 7
Res: 1280x1024

Excellent first site...Miles better than the old one!

I would like to reaffirm the points about the text going right up to the left of the window on higher resolutions - this needs sorting

Also I agree with Webmistress on the frames, they are a bad idea - I do like the way the menu works though, and would take a lot away from the design to change it, it's up to you (but frames are evil for a variety of different reasons).

Overall: Do some tweaking and you'll have a lovely site...Has the client seen it yet, are they happy?

taff — Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:46:00 +0000

First off, congrats on the client! I'd love to do one of these little Irish B&Bs. Nice clean job - particularly for a first site.

The frames really spoil this for me. They give the site a dated look and feel.

Graphics: Your layout and navigation really should be done as gifs - it would dramatically decrease the file sizes and probably sharpen up the text. Oh - it's an imagemap? So we're talking about 17k x 6 just for the navigation? Ouch.

For some reason, the Euro code isn't working for me on the Accomodations page although it comes in fine on the Activities page (same code, I'm using IE6, go figure!)

Megan — Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:22:00 +0000

Watch your margins at higher resolutions. On some of the pages (home and Activities), the text is up against the left side of the window while the header and footer stay centered.

I like the way you've used that curve to set up the navigation, but it seems a little bottom heavy this way. What you could do is have the header stretch all the way across as well so they balance out. On the other hand, I do like the curved ends on the top header so maybe the bottom part should mimic that instead. I'm also seing little gaps between your images on the bottom at 1152 x 768. Try using table backgrounds instead of straight images.

The_Oracle — Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:50:56 +0000

Fixed the broken link. Very sorry about that, replaced the footer frame with an older HTML page that was the problem.

The Webmistress - thanks for that feedback. I didn't realise that was what the downside of using frames was.
DaveyBoy - does the noframes tag come after the frameset tag? If so, do I just type some normal text into it with hyperlinks to all the different pages. As in:

"Your browser cannot display frames. A frame-capable browser would display the many benefits of staying at Carraig-Mor House including.... text .... etc"

I think the bottom image now completes the site! I tried to make the site compatible with IE and Netscape at resolutions 1074*768 and 800*600.

Any other comments?

DaveyBoy — Fri, 07 Mar 2003 10:29:17 +0000

One way round that is to add a lot of content and links into the tags.

The Webmistress — Fri, 07 Mar 2003 08:17:31 +0000

For your first site well done it certainly is better than the old one.

Get the image at the bottom and it'll be easier to review, however I wouldn't have used frames for this. They are a personal choice but IMO are more trouble than they are worth. For instance you have nothing in there now that the search engines can follow or index - take a look at your source code for the frameset, that's what they'll see - nothing, no text, no links - see what I mean?

jammin — Fri, 07 Mar 2003 03:17:57 +0000

nice site, other than the broken image at the bottom.

c-double — Fri, 07 Mar 2003 02:14:15 +0000

The image map in the bottom frame was broken, but the top frame content seemed nice. Much better than their previous site.