Suzanne — Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:58:25 +0000

You can use xhtml, php and css in the same site, they aren't mutually exclusive, they are actually complementary.

synapticimpulse.com <-- my personal site is xhtml, php and css2 (and css-p)

There are lots of examples at meryl.net -- look for CSS layout pages.

Jimmy Changa — Thu, 06 Mar 2003 22:54:41 +0000

I was planning on setting up my new design in PHP so that I could use "include"s and be prepared for when I get around to learning MySQL and the database driven site design. Not that using CSS-P isn't possible along with PHP or anything, but I may screw it up trying to do too much at once (like that's ever stopped me before). I was also considering XHTML...

so many choices! gotta love it.

Suzanne — Thu, 06 Mar 2003 22:11:05 +0000

heh, won't be the first thread to derail.

Well it depends on the site, and the audience, clearly, but CSS-P allows you some flexibility that tables can't, including ease of recreation in different styles, and also being able to server different end users (print, screen, pda, cell phones) without having to redesign or recreate the content.

But as I said, it has everything to do with audience.

Jimmy Changa — Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:50:27 +0000

But but but....I love my tables!

Why I want to choose CSS-P instead?

utoh, were now officially off topic. :0

Suzanne — Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:37:54 +0000

Careful with the nowrap if you want to validate... Or resize smaller, heavens forbid, lol.

Maybe it's just the folks you work with, lol. I can see why you would, but really, it seems silly, why not just get a bigger monitor or lower the resolution a bit?

Ah, well, having a stretchier site will be better all around, let's see if we can talk you into using CSS-P, heh.

Jimmy Changa — Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:34:12 +0000

mac? Well, that kinda changes things, I'd imagine. The "Larger Fonts" setting simply increases fonts 125% in size. Maybe it's just the folks I work with, but several have it set that way, so when I show them my "cool" new thing, it's screwy. My new design will just have to accomodate this using expandable table graphics and "nowrap"s.

So it's pixels then? Hmmmm.

I'm not all THAT obsessive...really I'm not! lol

Suzanne — Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:24:24 +0000

Sweetie, I use a mac, lol... I can right click all I want, I don't have those options. However, if I go wandering into my settings, yes, of course I can change them, but I don't need to, nor do I want to. I don't know anyone who uses a large screen resolution and large fonts -- notably because the point of a large screen resolution is to gain more desktop space, which larger fonts would render pointless.

Pixels are absolute
Em and % are relative
Keywords are resizable
Points are for print

Jimmy Changa — Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:02:30 +0000

So is it better to use "px" or "em" for fonts, or should I go with relative units?

The Webmistress — Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:16:31 +0000

pt is for printing

Jimmy Changa — Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:38:38 +0000

My premise holds true if you go to "right click on desktop/properties/settings/advanced tab" and choose "large fonts".

My fonts are sized by "pt"...is that not good?