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    <description> &lt;ul class=&quot;bb-list&quot;&gt;Dreamweaver&lt;br /&gt;
Photoshop&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;If you already know Photoshop, then stick with that. Will save you some time with the learning curve of Illustrator and Fireworks. &lt;/p&gt;
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Panky&lt;br /&gt;
ICQ:51140074&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Surely in DW you can see what the page will look like! Frontpage just has so many drawbacks, any serious designer will not use it.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Thank you for your comments again looking into the prices of illustrator now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;one problem though, we can not do /images/logo.jpg linking as pages will be in folders outside of the main public folder&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ie hosting/offers.php   as well as many scripts we are running.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is why I like frontpage because I can see what the page will look like.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2003 04:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;I found that Illustrator took awhile to get the hang of - just because I was so used to pixel-based graphics that it was hard to grasp the concept of vectors at first.  Taking a course would be a good idea - that&#039;s what I ended up doing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I actually really like Flash as a simple vector drawing program but it&#039;s not a suitable substitute for Illustrator.  You have to look at what these programs were made to do and therefore what they&#039;re best at.  Flash was made for animation, and that&#039;s what it&#039;s best at.  Sure, it does alright for simple vectors, but any serious vector work should be done in Illustrator.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2003 02:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;remove the url from the images so it&#039;s just &quot;images/logo.jpg&quot; but the images will have to be in a folder called &#039;images&#039; off the folder the .html file is in.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s always a good idea to set you puter up like your web site, in the layout of folders/files etc so it can be made and uploaded without any changes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you found photoshop easy you shouldnt have a problem with illustrator - the more you do the easier it becomes&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2003 01:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Thanks all for your great replies,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No we will not be hiring any designers, or doing any website design.  Strictly hosting. Just want to save time and money by me and another person being able to make some graphics logos and such basically on the fly with out having to outsource this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now one questions I have when I try and edit our pages in dreamweaver I never see the images only a grey box indicating it is an image is there anyway It can show the images ?&lt;br /&gt;
They are all refereced to the website &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How hard is adobe illustrator to learn to use.  Me and tiffany both took a photoshop college course and learned a lot. I felt it was rather easy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ie img src=&quot;http://www.mysite.com/images/logo.jpg&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2003 01:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;IMHO Flash is a good vector graphics program, what do you guys think?&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2003 01:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;blockquote class=&quot;bb-quote-body&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Quote: &lt;em&gt;Originally posted by mairving &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;I really don&#039;t know if I would recommend Illustrator either since it really wouldn&#039;t help someone that is not trained to use it all that much.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quite often, software requirements can be as basic as providing the ability to be on the receiving end on files from clients and/or associates. Illustrator falls into that category for me on a regular basis. Although my abilities with the app are fairly limited, I do get a lot of use from it opening .ai and .eps files from various graphic designers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have a very dusty copy of Corel Draw 9 kicking about for the same reason.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;blockquote class=&quot;bb-quote-body&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Quote: &lt;em&gt;Originally posted by Suzanne &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Illustrator/Draw I think are a must for any graphic artist, especially if doing logos or print work. But Photoshop/PhotoPaint/Fireworks is fine for most web work?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Are you asking or is this a rhetorical question?  I think that most designers will encounter some need for Illustrator at some point - even if you just need to modify a logo file created by a graphic designer.  Also, from what hostdog said it sounds like he&#039;s looking for a good graphics person (not necessarily a &quot;web designer&quot;).  Any good graphics person should know Illustrator and will most likely feel the need to use it more than occasionally.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edit:  Hostdog said &quot;for logos banners special pics that sort.&quot;  If he&#039;s looking to have logos created the designer will most definitely need Illustrator.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Illustrator/Draw I think are a must for any graphic artist, especially if doing logos or print work. But Photoshop/PhotoPaint/Fireworks is fine for most web work?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with Megan, though -- it&#039;s best to hire out for that sort of thing.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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