JeevesBond — Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:12:52 +0000

Don't think I've got much to add to everything that has been said already...Apart from observing the likeness to the original PHP site (http://www.php.net )
Hmmm...

Colonel Failure — Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:17:35 +0000

While the site is clean and well laid-out I feel it is lacking any punch at all. In a marketplace driven by the need to impress you're not doing yourself any favours in a conservative design. That said, the fact that your design is clean is a very good start.

acdglobal — Mon, 06 Jan 2003 10:26:30 +0000

I think the design is cool but I don't like the logo "Welcome to Conixon Designs". It seem to just be a repeat of the logo in the top left hand corner. Mabye make something that is a little differen't.

Also mabye use more space in the dark blue horizontal strip at the top. You could use this for some menu links.

Good luck with your site, it looks pretty good!

Andrew Drake

Busy — Mon, 06 Jan 2003 03:59:15 +0000

change your DOC tag to XHTML trans and retry what you're doing.
your code is a mix of html and xhtml, so you'll need to fix the html bits to make it validate.

Don't look Suzanne
use tables
but seriously tables are still good to use on layouts (still can be valid strict and 1.1 as layout). Just try not to nest them to deep (3 max).
Tables werent made for layouts from day one but have been used for them for years so there is no point in stopping now. tables are valid part of html and xhtml but the w3c "recomend" to use as they were made for, for data.
CSS doesn't have enough support for a lot of minor things yet, let alone the major stuff so there is no point in throwing away what already works. Sure when CSS does become more stable and universal switch over. until then you'll find you're making more work for yourself trying to get it to look universal way worse than just IE vs NS, now you have to do those two, plus others, plus all the versions.
You seriously think forums etc will switch to tabless designs?? maybe one day (and they aren't classed as data tables) but most forums and blogs etc already comply to XHTML standards.

I'm not meaning this to turn into a debate (if you wish to, reopen, or start a new thread do it in the proper forum topic) just that XHTML has been out for 3 years, CSS even longer. It's everyone is wanting to advance but your doing yourself a disservice by dumping what works. Am I against the changes? no, I want to advance to one day when I can make a layout which would work in all browsers and its layout effected by the DOC tag I choose, but it's not avaible yet.

my 2cents

dk01 — Mon, 06 Jan 2003 00:19:55 +0000

I would do it that way but it doesnt display correctly in IE5 if you use that because of a problem with the box model. If 20% of traffic wasn't using it then I could care less but I have to take that into consideration. Thanks anyways.
-dk

Renegade — Sun, 05 Jan 2003 23:16:59 +0000

#nav {
width:100px;
}
#content {
margin-left:100px;
}

That's how I did it on my site and it works like a charm

And as for the news what about putting it in a section named 'news'?

dk01 — Sun, 05 Jan 2003 22:08:37 +0000

Haha thanks for the good laugh Zollet. lol. I will post that fixed nav question in another forum because I know it does not belong here but as for adding orange to the color sceme. Would people say that it is a neccesity or is the site not bad with all blue?

Also if anyone has a solution for dynamically increasing text size then could they post it here? Someone said that the text on the side bar should expand to fit the space.

Last thing, I think Megan voiced her opinion about not wanting to have news on the main page of the website. Where do most people put news? or do they leave announcements completely off their website.
Thanks again.
-dk

zollet — Sun, 05 Jan 2003 10:25:37 +0000

Wow, what an improvement! Good job.

You might want to add "remove the rounded top-left corner" to your todo list Also, I'm sure one of our great webmasters here can help you with the fixed with navbar.

Now, let's do the banana dance

dk01 — Sun, 05 Jan 2003 09:12:15 +0000

Ok wow thanks everyone. This is really helpful. I never really post work to be reviewed so I am afraid to say that I might not be the quickest to go back and change it.

Ok the thing is that I am going to keep the liquid design. I might have to give up some design points but thats ok. I wanted to change the left side nav to a fixed width one but the problem is that the left hand div (where content is) is a percentage. Therefore putting one to fixed width and one to percentage causes major problems. Anyways I will keep working to get that fixed. I see what you mean.

I have done a few things.
1) Changed the "Chill out" on the left side nav and added some more side nav blocks to fill it in.
2) Took out black background and extended page to 100% so that there is not a huge empty space around it.
3) Got ride of top nav. Now that I think about it, its not worth the trouble and is getting to be common that I don't think I really want to use it.

Still to do:
1) Change the top graphic to be more like the "Welcome" logo.
2) Add in any additional color.
3) Find out how to do fixed width nav.
4) Try and get ride of 1px white line under top logo.
5) Focus on design and drawing the users eyes to the main content on the page and less to the left nav bar (unimportant).
6) Fix the terrible image under the left nav bar.
7) Test in Opera 7b and at higher res monitors.

Wow ok guys thanks.
I would really like to know which browsers/os/resolutions the people who had problems were using?
-dk

Renegade — Sun, 05 Jan 2003 07:19:18 +0000

As with me I also agree with everything that has been said.

For your naviagation, you have a mouseover that has a blue background it looks a bit odd, and the nav is split into two columns and on the bottom column you have home >> again I odn't think it should be there since you already have a link to home.

and the black background looks very out of place

At the bottom you have another navigation bar that links only to home, what about making links to the links up the top too?