radman — Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:46:41 +0000

divs= layers = noo no no!

ok cool i am on my way to ezhtml ...thanx

The Webmistress — Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:04:23 +0000

I agree, DW isn't all that bad but you really shouldn't just rely on it for doing all the code, you really need to know to code properly in order for things to work properly and to tweek the code. Have a look at Busy's tutorial which should help you have a better understanding of tables and how they should work.

Don't set heights for tables!

jag5311 — Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:36:20 +0000

I use Dreamweaver MX, and used Dreamweaver 4 before that. My experience with drawing tables and cells has been, DISASTEROUS. I recommend not doing it.

Here is what I do now. I get into Table view, and I choose INSERT, and then Table. Then I choose whether or not I want my page to be stretchy, or fixed. Difference is using Percent, or pixels. I usually pick 700 Pixels for a fixed one. That creates your main basis of a table. Then, while you are inside that table (with a blinking cursor), I go down to where there is a the Property Bar, and there are two buttons, one is a Consolidate cells button (consolidate might not be the word), and the other button is one that splits the table into "x" amount of cells. I.e, Columns or Rows. By doing this, you can then have different areas to go and put information. What is also nice, is it makes inserting a new table very easy. Just find a cell where you might want new information (without all the moving of cells) and choose INSERT TABLE, and then choose your specified Width. To change height, you are better off either selecting the table, and manually typing in the height you want, on the property bar, or just dragging the table down to how large you want it. I recommend the typing manually. It takes time, but it beats having to type everything out hardcoding. Alot of people put down dreamweaver, but its nice to be able to see what is going on with the webpage without having to open up your text editor, type your code, choose save as, save it, then open up your browser, then open the file up, view it, open up the text editor, find where you need to make the change, save it again, then reopen it in a browser. You can always have the split screen in dreamweaver to see the code and the tables at work.

I hope that helps some, but I recommend using that EZHTML tutorial that BUSY recommended.

bryan

Wil — Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:18:27 +0000

Quote:
how do ppl build there sites with tables then?????

They use CSS and DIVs.

/me runs

Busy — Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:18:10 +0000

Quote: how do ppl build there sites with tables then?????

They hand code it

My experience with DW is if you take a good site and view/change it in DW the results can be bad, DW does alsorts of bad stuff, especially if DW isn't set up right.

Have a look at the link in my sig, go to tables 2 (second tables page) has examples of how you can make tabled layouts etc

radman — Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:21:28 +0000

hpw do u do that...can u give me a toturial or something.......all i want is to set my site up like that with as little html a spossible...and when i update it (move stuff around) other tables or layers dont gert affected...is there a program that i can use then instead of dreamweaver??????? how do ppl build there sites with tables then????? can u give me an example of a site with tables so i can have a look @ it in DW???

The Webmistress — Wed, 18 Dec 2002 07:59:28 +0000

What radman is talking about is in the table layout view in DW tables are labled in green and then cells are highlighted in blue.

Radman, I think you really need to look at the way you start putting your pages together. You have a table here with 18 rows and 8 columns. Things are moving around because when you then put other tables inside these columns you are directly affecting the cells surround that one. I suggest you try a layout without nesting tables and certainly not having them set up with so many cells/rows.

Suzanne — Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:36:13 +0000

Maybe Julia can help, I have no idea what you're talking about with the green and blue tables and such.

radman — Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:29:07 +0000

ok...i use tio use layers...but they make so much coding thus making the code solong and they movearound..in browsers - opera..

ok so if u draw a green table how do u get text and text next to each other..

Renegade — Sun, 15 Dec 2002 08:14:08 +0000

Do you know how to use layers or Divs? If you do, then I suggest that you use them

Or else learn how to "tab" you markup because I found that once I tabbed my html/coding A lot of errors were found and corrected, it also made checking, and "debugging" easier