Suzanne — Sun, 24 Nov 2002 22:22:27 +0000

Okay, look, Timewell, you are getting WAY ahead of yourself! You can't hope to start learning CSS when you're not clear on HTML. Really. Here's what I want you to do: take all the content you want to have on a sample page. Mark it up just with headings and and such.

Next, figure out what sections you want to have (navigation, posts, title, logo, footer, et cetera) and put divs around those pieces with ids like this:

Okay, once you've done this, it will look really plain and just be a big long page. That's EXACTLY what you want.

Once you have that all in place, and you validate the code to make sure it's all correct, then you can add in the CSS and use it to control the presentation.

When you have this sample page ready and it makes sense to you, post again and I'll walk you through the process of figuring out the CSS.

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Anything but Netscape are those browsers, layers are a proprietary code form for Netscape only. DIV is cross-browser.

Timewell — Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:30:42 +0000

What browsers are those? How would I encorporate layers?

Busy — Sun, 24 Nov 2002 20:41:58 +0000

If your going to use that naviagtion set up you posted in the other thread, keep to tables, CSS is pretty good at aligning chunks of content but doesnt do to well with heaps of little nested chunks in bigger chunks. Unless you use layers then you make your site unaccessable to some browsers

Timewell — Sun, 24 Nov 2002 19:29:47 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by The Webmistress
If you haven't used CSS before, I would suggest you learn how to get rid of font tags, backgrounds and that kind of stuff from your pages into an external style sheet and then once you have that working progress on to the more complicated task of doing layout with CSS.

I have tried to understand but I am getting myself more confused. How much, roughly, does it know off the size of each file (%)?

I just need an example in one of my pages to start me off!

Timewell — Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:35:54 +0000

No I am not doing it in Publisher! I am doing it in Notepad!

Suzanne — Sun, 24 Nov 2002 16:47:18 +0000

As Julia says, and as I mentioned before, you'll want to learn some basic CSS before trying to eliminate tables.

CSS will still lower your code bloat (you're not really trying to do this in publisher, are you!?), by allowing you to eliminate font tags and style the colours and fonts on the page.

But unless you have a solid handle on HTML, it's not going to help to look at CSS.

Instead of trying to edit a page, why not start with a new page and practice until you are familiar. Then editing existing pages will be easier.

The Webmistress — Sun, 24 Nov 2002 13:32:11 +0000

If you haven't used CSS before, I would suggest you learn how to get rid of font tags, backgrounds and that kind of stuff from your pages into an external style sheet and then once you have that working progress on to the more complicated task of doing layout with CSS.

Timewell — Sun, 24 Nov 2002 13:28:57 +0000

Yep very!

I dunno now I am confused! I was told that CSS cuts down on file size and therefore I want to do this. I am not sure how to do so after reading through many, many many tutorials! I know that it has to be an external file though as then I can change stuff easily. My site will have a lot of pages!

What do you recommend? Should I keep the tables or what?

disaster-master — Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:23:24 +0000

Quote: If so can I have an example cause I am definately not understanding how to replace the tags. Once one page is coded I can probably see what to do!

You said that you don't understand how to replace the table tags. Are you wanting to totally get rid of all tables on this site? If not, what do you mean by "replace"?

*gets confusing doesn't it?*

Timewell — Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:57:55 +0000

oops! I gave the wrong URL!

Sorry guys! Correct URL

That should work now!