European Lee — Sat, 30 Nov 2002 10:22:27 +0000

Yes i agree!

Unfortunately though, Google is the one thing i can pretty much do with as i like and manage to get #1 listings...lol

Some would call it a blessing, i however call it a curse as people are always asking me how i manage it time after time, the truth is, i design my site to be relevant to the content on the site. There are no tricks involved as far as i am concerned, there are people who spend all their waking day trying to get the #1 spot in the SE's and i really do pity them especially when they can see that my site turns up above them for the same keywords..lol

I guess it also has a lot to do with the sites that i link to and that link me in return, i tend to go for sites of a similar nature to mine, resources ect, and often it benefits the both of us.

Regards,

Lee

The Webmistress — Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:43:36 +0000

That is a hard part if you conciously work on that! Especially with Google's ever changing state of flux it seems to have at the moment

European Lee — Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:01:03 +0000

I think the hardest part of *any* webmasters job is keeping up-to-date on the contant changes that are made by the search engines and directorys.

One day any of us could have a #1 listing on Google and, the following month we could be confined to the 10,000 listing just because Google updated its monthly algorythm.

Of course, traffic from the search engines isnt everything but, it counts for a lot in terms of actual $$$ made from any individual site.

Regards,

Lee

Renegade — Wed, 27 Nov 2002 23:49:08 +0000

so, i guess u'll never know with clients aye? they differ like snowflakes

Suzanne — Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:53:43 +0000

Almost all of my clients send me content in Word format -- fully and obscenely laid out with bold, italics, colours if I'm really unlucky.

Even using a CMS, I still have to do the basic markup (and purging of Word or Publisher coding).

At some point, SOMEONE has to deal with the markup, and usually it's me. There aren't sophisticated enough CMSs out there to do the work. And if there were, I'm not sure it would be profitable. I'm where the buck stops.

It depends on whether it's new sites, new content in existing sites, product entry and updating (that really should be through a back end admin section or it's just bonkers to deal with).

The Webmistress — Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:15:20 +0000

We have actually got a guy who is local to us that does the actual computer related stuff and if any of our clients require assistance with PC problems or they want new PCs or upgrades we send him round to see them, so we kind of do supply everything needed.

FunkyJ — Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:09:59 +0000

Yeah, that's why it would be nice if you could be 'THE COMPUTER GUY' for them.

They will not only find you to do webmaster related issues but always computer help like buying a computer and stuff. HEY! one stop service, that's what all web master should offer.

The Webmistress — Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:04:29 +0000

It'd be more like 2 years computer tuition with some of them and generally if they are new to the internet/email I do give them basic training as long as they are close enough for me to go and see them!

FunkyJ — Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:02:21 +0000

Or you could learn PHP

It is much easier and simply to perl. And most webhosting support PHP as well.

It is hard to understand why people will have difficult time to JUST send email. Maybe you should 'combine' your web design package with 2 hours of computer lesson.

jag5311 — Wed, 27 Nov 2002 15:49:32 +0000

Quote: ... and then u get those people who like the "fancy stuff" like scrolling marquess and odd javascripts

Well, there are some sites out there that have a scrolling news column, and that usually is nice. Or if there is a special being promoted, then that would be useful.

I am currently wanting to learn coldfusion, because if you have a database of items (such as products with prices), you can set it up so there is an administration page where the client can log in and manually choose which item she wants a price change on, or a content change on, make the change, and then update it automatically.