Suzanne — Sun, 05 May 2002 01:59:50 +0000

P.S. If you don't have content in the cells, Netscape will "efficiently" reduce the cells to nothing. It doesn't consider the background to be a holding element (because it isn't). The only way to force it open would be to hitch it to the other cells. Your code is unnecessarily complex.

I suspect you are trying to use a wyiwyg?

Suzanne — Sun, 05 May 2002 01:55:27 +0000

Um, korndragon -- if you rearrange the table so it's three rows and three columns, you would have the top row and bottom row fixed height (filled with images only, no variables) and then the middle cell of the middle row would control the middle outside columns' height, and expand as necessary.

It's not a matter of pleasing everyone, it's a matter of knowing how to create the tables, if you're going to use them, so you don't tear your hair out.

korndragon — Sun, 05 May 2002 01:48:18 +0000

ok, i finally got the damn layer position fixed... now i just need to make it so the layout streches 100% vertically

here is the code for the damn thing...

function getScrolled()
{
if(pageYOffset)
return pageYOffset;
else if(document.body && document.body.scrollTop)
return document.body.scrollTop;
else return 0
}

function change_content(obj, pic, show) {
if (document.getElementById) {
el = document.getElementById(obj) ;
}

else if (document.all){
el = document.all[obj];
}

else if (document.layers) {
el = document.layers[obj];
}

if(show == 1) {
el.innerHTML = ""
if (el.style) {
if(ie) el.style.top=eval(scrolled)
else el.style.top=getScrolled()
}
else if (el.style) el.pic.top = getScrolled();
}

else el.innerHTML = ""

}
</script>

korndragon — Sun, 05 May 2002 01:30:34 +0000

"And works for me in NS. "...
if you would look at http://cgi.korndragon.net in NS - the page is supposed to stretch 100% vertically.. but it wont, also the right side doesn't strech 100%...

when i use your function, IE return the error "'pageYOffset' is undefined"

i hate netscape!!! so much f+++in trouble

niqueco — Sun, 05 May 2002 01:23:26 +0000

Isn't that pageYOffset?

And works for me in NS.

Oops...
scrolled=n?"window.pageYOffset":"document.body.scrollTop"
won't work in NS6. And why using eval? I would use a function:

function getScrolled()
{
if(pageYOffset)
return pageYOffset;
else if(document.body && document.body.scrollTop)
return document.body.scrollTop;
else return 0
}

I haven't tried it though.

korndragon — Sun, 05 May 2002 00:07:09 +0000

thnx, i se how that can make my code more universal, but i still need to finf out what property netscape uses that is equal to "eval(scrolled)
" that will find how far the page has been scrolled.
also, how do i make a table height="100%" in netscape?

niqueco — Sat, 04 May 2002 23:30:39 +0000

Some things that can be useful...

In your page I see...

ie=document.all?1:0
ns=document.layers?1:0

Note that Mozilla, Galeon, Netscape (>= 6) will have both as false!

My recommendation is not to use this but test for the feature you need instead.

e.g. instead of...

if (ie) el.style.top=eval(scrolled)
if (ns) el.pic.top = top.pageYOffset; 

...you might use thu more robust:

if (el.style) el.style.top=eval(scrolled)
else if (el.pic.top) el.pic.top = top.pageYOffset; 

Hope it helps..

korndragon — Sat, 04 May 2002 20:00:00 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by Suzanne
Oooh. It doesn't work in opera, either.

You might want to rearrange how you have the table split. If you have it split into rows and columns, where only the middle section expands based on content, you'll resolve most of your problems, I think.

how am i supposed to have just the content area expand, and not the rest?
i guess i cant please every1! lol:D

Suzanne — Sat, 04 May 2002 19:55:15 +0000

Oooh. It doesn't work in opera, either.

You might want to rearrange how you have the table split. If you have it split into rows and columns, where only the middle section expands based on content, you'll resolve most of your problems, I think.

Suzanne — Sat, 04 May 2002 19:53:51 +0000

By using valign="top" in the where it belongs. What are you trying to do?