FYICG — Tue, 07 May 2002 06:39:28 +0000

Hello Busy,

Thank you for your comments. Yes it is a business site. No it is not made to gain more business. Gaining business as a result of the internet makes up for less than 5% of total revenue. I am not concerned with that.

I came here because of the experience.

Lunchtime, dinner, sometimes breakfast. We are a 24hr company. Business is always discussed. The advice has been Wunderbar. I got all the notes.

Right now there is not much feedback. It isnt a feedback type discussion. I am giving directives and assigning tasks. He did say, "I told you I should have posted there", if you consider that feedback.

There are some things that we will give very serious consideration too, a few definite changes and some will be discarded.

Sean

Busy — Tue, 07 May 2002 05:48:45 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by FYICG
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Maybe it is unusual for someone to want a web site and not care that it doesn't receive many if ANY hits. But I still need to know those things you professionals gripe about so that I can be informed and give the directive to change those things that I have been convinced needed to be changed.

then in a later post you say you will bend over backwards for the customer? I am confused
This is a business site, made to gain more business right?

the advice people give here is from experience, your meta tags etc, not only are they wrong but they will work against you, this and other things have been pointed out to you to help improve your site, (your business) but seems from your comments that this is just a lunchtime conversation to have with your work mates.
All the advice given has been on the mark, a successful site is because of its contents, its ease of use and user friendly browsing.

just curious, what feedback has your webdeveloper given concerning the suggestions from here?

FYICG — Tue, 07 May 2002 05:35:48 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by Suzanne
[b]Untargeted, unfocused keywords do not get you the users you are looking for!
[/B]

I am NOT looking for users. That is very important to know. I've said that before.

Deal with what issues? When we decide to start trying this internet thing that will all be in place. We are just not going to do what you say. We will review and discuss it here; and as a result of this forum, more in detail so that I understand better, not more. I am a businessman, not a webmaster. I've also said that before. It seems as though you all prefer to deal with webmasters opposed to owners. That's fine, just tell me to leave. I will. Its not that deep.

Quote: I think that will alleviate most if not all of the miscommunication.

Misunderstanding is what it is. I thought this was a place where I could post my url, get some qualified opinions, make some changes and go on with life. I honestly thought it was that simple. That was a miscalculation.

Sean

This is a keeper

FYICG — Tue, 07 May 2002 05:07:58 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by doublehelix

Well, with all your bulleted lists and daily meetings and what-not, it would be a bit more convincing if you actually did something about it.

Thats an excellent question!

I will do something about it. The next time we update the site. Don't be upset if we don't implement or institute something that you gave your opinion on. We asked, YOU gave, we will review, we will implement those that are appropriate. The only YOU in that process was what was given; and it was actually an opinion. You can have it back? Or please leave the opinion alone, so we can do what we please with it.

doublehelix,
Have you reported me to the search engine folks yet? I don't know if you work for yourself/own your own company or work for someone else. Actually, its none of my business and could care less. I work for myself. Every penny I make is because of me and allows me to do whatever I want, when I want. Who the ***** do you think you are to question what I do with my day, work or daily life? It is none of your ***** business, quite frankly. And surely is it not any of your concern how it is scheduled.

I don't need to convince you or anyone else of anything. I came here to get your opinion about a subject you claim to have either expertise or advanced knowledge of a certain subject matter, you being a webmaster and being able to render such an opinion. I get it and I am getting questioned for not moving as fast as you want. You know what you can do right?

Have a beer or something...if you got paypal, I'll even buy.

If anyone just wants to give me an opinion of things I might want to consider to change please do so: fyicg.com. If not move on, have a nice day. I mean no harm; its only the internet.

Sean

doublehelix — Tue, 07 May 2002 04:08:40 +0000

Quote: I'm glad it strikes a nerve with you as it does with me and everyone else.

Well, with all your bulleted lists and daily meetings and what-not, it would be a bit more convincing if you actually did something about it.

Suzanne — Tue, 07 May 2002 04:02:24 +0000

I'm not sure where exactly you think all these reports are going. If anyone seriously thought you were promoting things that link children with sex, the proper authorities would be the police in your jurisdiction. They would be responsible for investigating you and your business.

As far as the search engines and keywords go, it's your own problem to deal with, we are just, repeatedly, identifying that the mass of unconnected keywords has the potential for getting you kicked out of the search engines, but more importantly, and I'll put this in bold for you...

Untargeted, unfocused keywords do not get you the users you are looking for!

Now if you're going to break up the site into specific domains, I recommend you get on that, and deal with those issues and then come back if you wish for a review of the different sites. They should be identifiably under an umbrella, but very different sites. One site can be a portal to the rest, but it would be far better if that one site is easy to identify as a portal, and that it doesn't look like as one site trying to do the work of 15.

Sean, it is clear you don't understand the web. I recommend that you have your developers explain a few things to you about search engines, usability, specialization, focus, compatibility, netiquette and user testing before you return. I think that will alleviate most if not all of the miscommunication.

FYICG — Tue, 07 May 2002 02:34:27 +0000

Disaster,

I'm glad it strikes a nerve with you as it does with me and everyone else. I will be more bothered if Doublehelix does not report me to the search engines for doing whatever it is that everyone says I did.

I've been reading about this web stuff for about 2 months now. I am learning some interesting stuff (about the industry) but the technical side is not me. The webmaster has an email and a printout of every comment posted so far (except for the posts after 3pm est). We talk everyday and have talked more in the past 4 days as a result of some of the comments. We have a bullet point for each comment (think about 3 pages so far)

Were not rushing to get the site(s) out there...business inside is steady but upward; and our concentration is satisfying the clients that we have now (many of whom dont use the internet for anything other than email). That is not to say that we dont work/talk everyday about the site and what it needs to be before we release it.

Sean

disaster-master — Tue, 07 May 2002 02:12:56 +0000

Quote: We have several url's all which point to the same page right now, but eventually each link will point to specific pages. As an example, "travelquotes.us" will be for travel; "fyi2way.net" will be for wireless.

I was just fixing to post again and fuss at ya. LOL Then I saw your post. I think that with 4 different domains that you could split your original site up nicely. Doing that would help in more ways than one. It will help you with the search engines, help people to better find what they are looking for, and make things a lot less confusing for us picky webmasters on this forum.

As for the sex, candy, children....well it sorta strikes a nerve with me. Not sorta--it does. But that is your business.

All you can do is listen to our opinions and read up on keywords and search engines and spamming as well as browser compatibility issues. Hopefully, you will encourage your web person to at least consider what all has been said here.

FYICG — Tue, 07 May 2002 02:10:18 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by doublehelix
In other words, inspite of all your eratz protests to the contrary, you don't really have a problem with your misleading, "Sex. Children. Candy." bit in your meta tags.

Gee, why am I not shocked?

I didnt want you to have to pay someone for something you can do yourself for free. I was providing you with the information so when you contact/call/write/email/courier the URL's to the appropriate search engine folks, your information would be accurate. I dont know why you are not shocked.

I dont know what could shock someone who needs to take a shower after typing:

Quote: Originally posted by doublehelix
Yea, you could try to make a silly argument like that, but I doubt the search engine folks would ever buy it. I'll lay money anybody who mails his URL and metatags to the search engines will get his site thrown out of their databases.

Sex. Children. Candy.

Seesh... I need to go take a shower now.

Sean

FYICG — Tue, 07 May 2002 01:53:52 +0000

Thancx for the link. We have several url's all which point to the same page right now, but eventually each link will point to specific pages. As an example, "travelquotes.us" will be for travel; "fyi2way.net" will be for wireless.

Quote: Originally posted by disaster-master
I suppose that if I wanted to book my honeymoom, buy a pager and moble for the trip, have you re-write my company policies and procedures manual while I am gone, arrange a bus trip for grandma and whip up an add for my business all in one stop, then FYI would be the place to go. But that just seems a little unrealistic to me.

Damn right it is unrealistic...that a company would have that many "things" for consumers to choose from and do them "good". We are not recreating any new services or products. We just take out the middle man and provide better customer service.

If you are a start-up company and your business required you to travel, required you to have reliable communication devices and you needed help creating or reviewing your policies and procedures manual, then FYICG would be a good place to go.

If you wanted to arrange a bus trip for grandma, we'd help you with that. In fact, if you wanted a bus trip for a 100 person marching band we'd help with that too. But your grandma or the marching band is not the reason you came to us originally. This would be an example of the 8 out of 10 mentioned in previous posts. We consult businesses, but we offer products and services that typical consumers either want or already use elsewhere.

Thank you for your well wishes and comments.

Sean