Suzanne — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 19:24:21 +0000

Probably because of inheritance issues -- some things inherit properly, others don't.

Good luck!

Suzanne

fifeclub — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:53:25 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by Suzanne
well playing around fixing the a.class:pseudoclass thing makes the colours work in Opera, but I'm having the same problem with the bottom.

more later.

Actually, the bottom copyright part is working the way I wanted to, being font size=1. It's that calendar box that I can't figure out. I realize that eventually I should change everything to CSS, and I will eventually, but it's just bugging me how the copyright section and the calendar are done the same exact way ( x ) but for some reason it works in one place and not another. But anyway, yes, I will eventually change over to inline CSS for variable text sizes.

Suzanne — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 06:51:15 +0000

You have a whack of other errors in the HTML -- validating that will help considerably.

You could also set the font tag in the CSS, btw.

font {font-size: ....}

And the reason the font tag is affecting things? Two reasons: one, no valid DOCTYPE, and two, you're actually using a tag, but not declaring it in the CSS. The HTML is not overriding the CSS so much as you are setting a new state for things within the font tags. You can remove them entirely.

The inheritance is like this for that section -- Make everything what the CSS says for P, except for here, this bit, use the FONT declaration. But there is no font declaration in the CSS, so it uses the HTML instead.

If you put all the information into the CSS, it will render fine for people without CSS support (default colours and links) -- which is less than 1% of the audience for most sites. AND that way you can remove the font tags entirely.

Suzanne

Suzanne — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 05:45:51 +0000

well playing around fixing the a.class:pseudoclass thing makes the colours work in Opera, but I'm having the same problem with the bottom.

more later.

Suzanne — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 04:57:34 +0000

Part of the problem is that you are not using well-formed HTML. Close up those paragraph tags.

Also, there is nothing specified in that area?

a:link.menu should be a.menu:link, et cetera, as well. (Check in Opera to see if it's working).

<center>
<p>&nbsp;
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial" size=1 color="#000000">
&copy; 2002 The Dugout
<br>[Beta v0.5.2]
</font>
</center>

Should be:

<p align="center">
<br>
<font face="Helvetica, Arial" size="1" color="#000000">
&copy; 2002 The Dugout<br>[Beta v0.5.2]
</font>
</p>

Of course, it would be even better if you just turfed the font tags.

I don't see anything else glaringly wrong with the CSS, did you validate it?

Suzanne — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 04:52:08 +0000

logically there is an error in your CSS -- again, HTML does not override CSS, but if the CSS is busted, then the browser will revert to the HTML specifications.

fifeclub — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 04:01:36 +0000

So I've now implemented a combination of everybody's CSS suggestions. Thanks. From my tests it works and looks good in IE 5 and NS 6. It still has some problems in NS 4, but the glass-half-full side is that it isn't lime green and aqua anymore either. Plus I cleaned up the code to make it easier for y'all to read.

Check it out at charlottemlb.com/softball/home.shtml

Let me know if everything seems okay for the most part and I'll consider my CSS adventure to be over (for now) and I'll move back into building up the content of my site. Thanks again everyone.

P.S. The 'font size=1' tag overrides my CSS properties in the copyright at the bottom. So why do my 'font size=1' tags NOT override the CSS properties in that yellow calendar box?

Suzanne — Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:20:29 +0000

Anything, ANYTHING can be in an include. I could make a page thusly:

include header file
include body file
include footer file

And in the header file have to , in the body file, the content, and in the footer file

It doesn't matter to the browser because they are glued together on the server before the browser sees it.

mmi — Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:28:04 +0000

well, I appreciate that url - but would the example you've provided be an appropriate structure for an include, i.e., with HTML and HEAD tags?

Suzanne — Wed, 27 Feb 2002 06:44:03 +0000

If you have this as an include...

$variable

Or, in otherwords, if you have both SSI and a database. For some sites I've used conditional scripting in the SSI to make the titles happen -- itservices.ubc.ca for instance -- so when new pages are created, the navigation and the header include are edited, and the new page is a list of includes only.

This was to prepare for database integration in a future version of the site.

So yes -- the title is included in the header SSI so there can be unique meta tags and titles for the pages to prepare for database integration in the future.

Suzanne