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    <link>https://www.webmaster-forums.net/web-design-and-graphics/how-do-you-begin#comment-1096211</link>
    <description> &lt;p&gt;Personally I find if I work on the logo and navigation first and try to get that right, then the rest is easy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Probably most people, over time will work out a method that works for them. With a little help from people on forums like this.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2001 04:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>bertiek</dc:creator>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Think, Attempt, Trash, repeate step 1.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s my basic pattern.  Don&#039;t worry if you can&#039;t get a look you like.  Trial and error.  Keep at it and you&#039;ll come up with something you like &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/smile.png&quot; title=&quot;Smiling&quot; alt=&quot;Smiling&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For one of my sites I think I spent a week on the interface, must have trashed 10 &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/smile.png&quot; title=&quot;Smiling&quot; alt=&quot;Smiling&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Kev&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2001 02:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;hahaha Oh i know exactly what you mean&lt;br /&gt;
My site (which is currently up but going down again)&lt;br /&gt;
has been getting designed for a few months now&lt;br /&gt;
its taken me months to come up with something i actually&lt;br /&gt;
like and now im board with it and find it too restricting&lt;br /&gt;
so im coming up with something else hahha and now i cant get another design i like..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but i find that doing something and spending some time on a design (Like not a few hours but a few days) usually works a treat and you come up with some real good things&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the design im working on now has been going for about 4 days (a total of about 21 hours work on it) But i tell you this now (couse i know my self well) i will get to the end then that will it i wont like the resualt anywho&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll save it all then start again.. and then prolly do that about 9 times more and see which one i like best and what parts of each i like best and see how i can incorperat that into the one design (but thats about 3 weeks away) but you should try that.. it works really well (one warning the design which is up now is just a day job nothing speciall very simple.. it wasnt designed like the rest of my sites.. and that could be the reason why..)&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Zacrifice</dc:creator>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Come on, stop fiddle farting around and come up with that logo! &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/big.png&quot; title=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The site doesn&#039;t look too bad but as you said, I would recommend coming up with some sort of header for each page. If you need some logo ideas, I would check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coolhomepages.com,&quot; class=&quot;bb-url&quot;&gt;coolhomepages.com,&lt;/a&gt; as I believe they have a section devoted to that. Good luck!&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Brian Farkas</dc:creator>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Well, per natcat&#039;s suggestion, I just did it. I would like some guidance as far as the graphics go...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I thought of creating one header graphic for each page. You can see what I mean by going to my main page and this one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do not think I&#039;ll be coming up with a logo anytime soon. Considering this, will keeping the color scheme and layout consistent be enough to create a sense of familiarity to the user? You know, so they know they are in my site while they are in my site?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks everybody. I only wish I had discovered this place a long time ago. It&#039;s gotten my creative juices flowing again. &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/big.png&quot; title=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[EDIT: removed URL links as they are not relevant at this time]&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2001 04:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t keep redesigning.  Move on, design fast, and if your three designs are completely different then save one for another project.  Sound like you like all of your designs!&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;that&#039;s exactly what is holding me up. thanks for clearing that up for me Megan!&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2001 22:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;I&#039;m like that too.  For one of my sites I actually had 7 mock-ups before I was finally able to settle on one, and did some revisions from there.  It does help to get advice from others - especially people who will be in your target audience.  Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, stop fiddle-farting around and go with something.  Make sure that you use includes or something to make future changes easier.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2001 21:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;I doubt anyone really pulls one out of the hat first pop that they are 100% happy with and wont change, I&#039;m working on a layout now (and its only one page) but am up to my 3rd version, but working up to the final version is not only great experience, but if you save them can give you ideas for other ones (cross and match kinda). also if you keep them long enough (few years) you can look back and think, wow, I&#039;ve come a long way lol - good luck&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Welcome to TWF &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/smile.png&quot; title=&quot;Smiling&quot; alt=&quot;Smiling&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2001 21:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;That&#039;s a tough one. I don&#039;t know if I have ever came up with a design that I was entirely satisfied with. I usually go through several revisions before I get a result I want. I usually stop when I am about 90% satisfied with it. It helps to put your site up for review here in the Critique area to see what others think.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2001 20:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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