taff — Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:03:18 +0000

Tor:

Yes, probably white would be a better background colour. I don't have a problem with your current colour background. I just find that white invariably works better.

Question to taff

Tor-Andre — Sun, 25 Nov 2001 12:49:44 +0000

Do you think the white background should be used under the text if the peachy colour stay? Or would you prefer like now that the whole page is peachy?

taff — Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:40:15 +0000

uh oh - in the minority again.

I prefer the "peachy" colours over the blue. With a consistent sans-serif font, new graphics and navigation, this would look quite nice.

Megan — Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:43:04 +0000

The fonts you chose doesn't really affect whether or not the pages will show up - it just defines how they will look AFAIK. What happens is that when you define a list like "verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif" the browser will first look on the users machine for verdana - if it's there, the text will show up in verdana, if it's not the browser will look for helvetica and so on. Adding that sans-serif on the end just tells the browser that if verdana, helvetica and arial are not on the user's machine, just use whatever the default sans-serif is. You can use whatever fonts you want in there really - you just have to be aware of how likely it is that those fonts are installed on the users' machine. It's pretty safe to assume that all of your users will have one of verdana, helvetica or arial.

What does vary beteween browsers, and more dramatically between operating systems is the size of the text. The only way AFAIK that you can get a consistent rendering of text sizes across operating systems is to use a stylesheet and define your sizes using pixels. Using the relative sizing built into HTML you'll see a lot of variations - things will look smaller on mac or linux, for example, than they would in windows. You'll also have complications if users have used their browser to increase or decrease the font size from the default.

In print you normally would use a different font for headers as opposed to body text. Usually they'll use a sans-serif for headers and a serif for text. The problem is that on a screen serif text looks bad and is hard to read, so it's better to stick to sans-serif for body text. Now you've got headers and body text both in a sans-serif. What I was saying is that in any kind design it's a bad idea to use two differnt fonts *from the same family* - it's okay to use a serif and a sans-serif together, not okay to use two *different* sans-serif fonts in the same design. When I write that aritcle I'll put up some examples so you can see what I'm talking bout.

There's a lot more I could say about this but I think I'll leave that to my article if and when I get around to writing it.

Tor-Andre — Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:20:11 +0000

Her name is Melissa Ellinor.

I tried what you suggested with css to make only one file with fonts. I was not satisfied with that. Maybe I did something wrong. Might try again.

So you mean that the header and the text should be the same font? Hmmm

I've learnt that the headers always should be grotesk and the text something like times new roman. But that was if you were writing for printing not for web.

Why do I use these three fonts verdana,arial,helvetica? Because the pages then will be shown in all browsers. These three fonts make the pages turn up in every browser if I'm supposed to beleave the html validators out there.

Megan — Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:50:17 +0000

Well congratulations on your new baby! What's her name? Seems like everyone's having more kids around here lately

Why don't you just use an external stylesheet for your fonts? Then you can write one file, place a link to it in all the others (a search and replace could do this for you) and you wouldn't have to go through and change everything.

One more thing - do not use two different fonts from the same category on the same page. I will be writing an article about this shortly - don't use two different sans serifs, like arial and verdana in the same design.

Tor-Andre — Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:30:51 +0000

The remaking off all the pages to Verdana,Arial,Helvetica font in that order are being done. But takes time.

I'm uncertain if I should use the same as headline or have the headlines Arial,Verdana,Helvetica. In that order?? comments???

Will finish this remaking of fonts first and then remake the pages with the blue colours. Friends that I have e-mailed about this agrees with you folks. The blue is better.

Then the work has to be done about the menu. The problem is that we have many links on the menu. But I've been thinking out some elements how I want it to turn out when it's finished. But I will probably need another month on this work. Have just gotten a litte baby girl on sunday. And We have two kids 3 and 1 1/2 years old from before so it's kind of hectic here.

The Webmistress — Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:09:34 +0000

Definietly better for being blue and nice picture, always good to see a face behind something like this. The only thing I would add now is to make the main text veranda (or arial) as at the moment it looks rough being left as default.

disaster-master — Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:06:01 +0000

I like the blue one best. The colors work better and I think that the picture of you is better too. The picture of you (i guess that is you) gives the site a person to "connect with" first instead of the leg. You could put that picture on another page.

Can't wait to see what you do with the menu.

Thanks for great advises!

Tor-Andre — Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:59:38 +0000

I've changed the picture and done some minor adjustments. Don't look at the menu, it will be quite different when finished.

http://www.tasfoundation.org/test/index.html