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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Hi DM,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  I&#039;m a bit tied up this weekend (figuratively speaking); if things loosen up next week, I&#039;ll see what I can do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Vinny&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2001 04:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Vincent Puglia</dc:creator>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Thanks vinny but that is a bit over my head to do that. I wouldn&#039;t even know where to begin.&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2001 14:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>disaster-master</dc:creator>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Morning people &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/big.png&quot; title=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  1)Jack, I must defer to: Archangel Michael vs the Lord of Light (aka Lucifer)&lt;br /&gt;
  2)DM, sounds good to me &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/smile.png&quot; title=&quot;Smiling&quot; alt=&quot;Smiling&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    but it really has more to do with:&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;strong&gt;the blades of grass cut me still &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    a few lines (add appropriate crlfs &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/smile.png&quot; title=&quot;Smiling&quot; alt=&quot;Smiling&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    in a poem I wrote years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
  3) I didn&#039;t download your site, so I don&#039;t know how you are displaying the menu.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   Insofar as layers &amp;amp; absolute positioning:&lt;br /&gt;
   yes, nn4 requires it;&lt;br /&gt;
   yes, it&#039;s a pain;&lt;br /&gt;
   yes, there are workarounds.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   you can try embedding the layer/div within an ilayer -- nn4 will be the only browser to recognize the html, you will need to modify the accessing -- document.layers[ilayerID].document.layers[layerID].etc..&lt;br /&gt;
The ilayer can be positioned relatively and the layer absolutely (0,0) within it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Vinny&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Hey Vinny,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just had someone look at the ettfire.com site on netscape and the problem is the positioning. It is showing up, it is just in the wrong place. The menu is covering up the logo. Do you know anything about layers, absolute positioning and NS and how I might fix this?&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2001 00:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Opps! I didn&#039;t notice that. Well, I said, &quot;in disquise&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
Speaking of sword--what is the meaning of your sword Vinny? Is that for chopping code?&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2001 19:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;blockquote class=&quot;bb-quote-body&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Quote: Oh, are you my angel in disguise? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think Vinny is an angel... otherwise he would be the first one with a sword in his avatar &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/big.png&quot; title=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2001 18:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Jack Michaelson</dc:creator>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Oh, are you my angel in disguise?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I use Explorer so I don&#039;t know the specific error. I think that it just doesn&#039;t show up. Here is the link to the site in question if that helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ettfire.com&quot; class=&quot;bb-url&quot;&gt;ETTFire&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can view the threads where it was critiqued after I did the menu upgrade.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webmaster-forums.com/showthread.php?threadid=15377&amp;amp;highlight=menu&quot; class=&quot;bb-url&quot;&gt;Dreaded menu thread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is the link the the guy that created the menu.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burmees.nl/menu/menus.htm&quot; class=&quot;bb-url&quot;&gt;menu link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe that this one is going to take some thought to figure out so if you bum out on me that is no problem.:ezbill:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know that all here wish that was no such thing as disaster master and dhtml....hehehe&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2001 18:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;Hi dm,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;bb-quote-body&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Quote: I am going to see if I can figure out how to do a &quot;detect/direct with javascript&quot;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if (document.layers)&lt;br /&gt;
   location.href=&#039;nn4page.html&#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;re the menu itself: may I ask what specific error you got with nn4?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Vinny&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2001 17:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;p&gt;:freak:&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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    <description> &lt;blockquote class=&quot;bb-quote-body&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Quote: Darn, I thought that I had learned a new word.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Mairving, didnt you know english isnt my first language? typo is &lt;img src=&quot;https://www.webmaster-forums.net/misc/smileys/big.png&quot; title=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing out loud&quot; class=&quot;smiley-content&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;me fail english? umpossible&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your correct DM, I goofed, but you could still use that script, in plain english:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if your browser is this, use this menu&lt;br /&gt;
else if your browser is this, use the this other menu&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you can just use an if/else statement to choose on browser detection keeping it to one page instead of two, you&#039;ll probably be better off to include the menus in .js files (seperate javascript files) and call them on the if/else&lt;br /&gt;
if they have javascript turned off thou they wont get any menu so maybe add a default or plain html menu in noscript tags&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the joys of DHTML&lt;/p&gt;
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     <pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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