tmay — Mon, 08 Oct 2001 02:07:58 +0000

Actually, I was just showing a picture of the book. I didn't buy that one on Ebay. But I have bought a ton of books on Ebay.

Mark Hensler — Sun, 07 Oct 2001 05:31:37 +0000

You bought it on ebay?!
I never even thought about buying a book on ebay. Whatever works, right?

tmay — Sun, 07 Oct 2001 03:46:38 +0000

Here's the first step I took to learn Perl:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1471967126

Busy — Sat, 06 Oct 2001 02:53:52 +0000

I think like anything, practice, practice, practice
learn from your mistakes, I remember thinking I'd never get the hang of HTML, those tables and forms got the better of me a few times but now I can laugh about it cause its like second nature.

a few links on perl I have bookmarked are:

http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/7331/ten_perl.html
Take 10 Minutes to Learn (TM) - PERL (its title)
http://www.webreference.com/programming/cgi.html
links to perl and cgi
http://www.cgi101.com/class/
CGI Programming 101
http://www.tutorialfind.com/tutorials/
do a search for perl

I havent used any of these, just came across them one day and bookmarked them for when I take the step towards perl

good luck

disaster-master — Sat, 06 Oct 2001 00:24:32 +0000

Quote: Disaster-master, I'm just curious how you came to decide to learn perl and not something else.

I was looking for a password script for my web site and used a javascript one. Then I noticed that you could view source and see the usernames and passwords. Lot of good that did huh?

Anyway, I started looking for something more secure and found the Bignosebird.com site. After looking over all of their scripts, the one that I wanted was in perl. That is how I got stuck on perl. I think maybe that perl is going to be a little too complicated and that I should probably just use a remotely hosted thingy for now.

I am really confused on the difference between perl and asp and the cgi-bin thing is driving me crazy. I'll just have to research some more before I can jump on here and ask questions because I don't know what the heck I am talking about....LOL

I went to that site that dcdomain suggested. I have to learn some things before that site will be of any use to me. Way to advanced for my wittle brain.

If you know of any good learning sites that I could check out or if you recommend that I learn something other than perl throw it my way. I am ready for a challenge but don't really know which way to go.

Busy — Fri, 05 Oct 2001 23:24:22 +0000

Disaster-master, I'm just curious how you came to decide to learn perl and not something else.

I hope to learn perl at some stage but am always interested what stood out in peoples choices.

Mark Hensler — Fri, 05 Oct 2001 16:01:05 +0000

I think all you need to install is perl. I think that the .cgi files are executed like a shell script. And I think that the webserver changes the output from stdout to the remote browser.

Just me thinking outloud.

Busy — Fri, 05 Oct 2001 06:03:37 +0000

Doesnt Perl need a server? like PWS, Apache etc to run off line, if these were installed you'd have a cgi bin which inturn would mean you could run them

and in the .cgi file something like #!/usr/local/bin/perl

*could be a case of the blind leading the blind :)*

Mark Hensler — Fri, 05 Oct 2001 05:34:53 +0000

I am completely the opposite. I cannot draw crooked stick figures. I have a cousin and a brother who are 'digital artists', and a cousin who is a 'hardware guy'. My digital artist cousin has learned PHP, and really quite well (digitalart.org). My brother and other cousin haven't really a clue, and don't really care to get one.

It seems that there are those who are artists and those who are problem solvers. And very rarely, there are people like my cousin who can bat with both hands.

dcdomain — Fri, 05 Oct 2001 05:28:04 +0000

Ah I wish I had your skills and mindset. I lean more towards the graphics side of the web and have the hardest time trying to read and learn coding. Having architecture as a major really prevents me from having time to study any outside subject matter. But I've seen the benefits and if it takes me five years to learn PHP it'll happen, eventually I'll get it.

Thanks for the warm welcome guys.