sersun — Fri, 03 Aug 2001 07:45:33 +0000

I worked as an interface designer with JSP guys up till a couple months ago. I did front-end JSP development and also made some java beans that read form values and kept session variables.

I had DW UltraDev but never used the "UltraDev" features, so I don't really know what it's best at. *From what I understand* you can set it up to make database tables and read from them, all through the gui. Makes simple things like showing a dynamically-generated list of values on your page pretty easy. And, you can preview it all as you develop. I think it can also use javabeans, but I doubt it compiles them.

I know it doesn't write just any JSP code for you. You have to use "behaviours" that come with DW or download third-party scripts. So, basically, the only JSP code it "writes" is the most fundamental and common code. I think it color-codes JSP code well. That's all I really used it for.

Tell your programming buddies that their jobs aren't in jeopardy

sersun -- not my real name

SoccerAl — Fri, 03 Aug 2001 06:06:18 +0000

You are completely right sersun! (are you Turkish?) I just talked to our developers today and *they* misunderstood the different specs. Yes, they code in jsp 1.1/1.2 and ultradev can be extended to JSP 1.1, but it's not clear which servlet spec it can support up to and we use either 2.1 or 2.2 at work.

That's what I've been having a hard time finding documentation on.

I guess the meat of my question is that I've been so used to Dreamweaver's power for front-end web design and site management that I would like to be able to use it for more complicated back-end development, but the mere mention of a gui tool for server-side scripting sends my co-workers fleeing faster than prize hogs from a butcher shop. So is ultradev a reliable tool for jsp development? I haven't heard a yay or nay from anyone online in any forum so far.

sersun — Fri, 03 Aug 2001 05:46:16 +0000

You mean the JAVA 2 Platform? It's been around since 1998. There is no JSP 2. I think it's only up to 1.2.

To make matters more confusing, there is also the Java Servlet Specification, that is about to go to 2.3.

I guess you need to find out what your programmers are talking about.

Let me know if this helps

sersun

detox — Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:03:04 +0000

sorry, never bothered with UltraDev.