Adam Oberdorfer — Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:11:28 +0000

Cirrus Records is probably a bit more complicated then what you're trying to do. However it does use the basic concept of relative frames. The whole idea behind relative frames is that the center frame stays the same size (in cirrus records case the center frame is 766x466 which allows the site to be seen at 800x600 and higher) and the outside (surrounding) frames are able to scale to fill up the rest of the browser window.

Cirrus Records is actually 2 framesets and uses JavaScript to trigger the different frames.

I think you could put your site in a table though. Using relative frames or pop-ups is only necessary on maybe 1 out of every 30 sites that use them. Look at all your other options first. And for god sake stop using GoLive!

Megan — Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:09:45 +0000

Here's a site by one of our members that uses frames to accomplish this effect:

http://www.cirrusrecords.com/

I'm sure Adam won't mind if you look at his code

Megan — Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:16:58 +0000

Yeah, GoLive does generate really terrible code.

What's up with this:

????

If you wanted to do a simple table your code would look something like this - you'll probably have to fiddle with the widths and stuff - I just did this quickly.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" align=center width=700 bgcolor="white">
	
<tr>
	<td><img src="spacer.gif" width=153 height=1></td>
	<td><img src="spacer.gif"></td>
	<td valign=top align=right colspan="2">logo</td>
	</tr>

<tr>(this row is just here to keep the spacing right because of the colspans)
	<td><img src="spacer.gif" width=153 height=1></td>
	<td><img src="spacer.gif"><img src="spacer.gif"></td>
	<td width=250><img src="spacer.gif"></td>
	<td width=81 bgcolor="yellow"><img src="spacer.gif"></td>
</tr>

<tr>
	<td>dHTML menu here</td>
	<td colspan=2 valign=top width=465>content</td>
	<td align=right>right side page title</td>
</tr>

</table>

However, if you want to have the content scroll you're going to have to use frames (either iframe or regular frames), which I almost never use so I won't be able to help much with that. Actually it might be easier to use frames, I dunno...

taff — Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:04:50 +0000

Man, is it possible?

I thought FrontPage generated the worst code of all WYSIWYG generators. They certainly have competition here.

From what I can tell, you will have problems at 800x600 and the absolute positioning of your logo is going to overlap body text unless you work around it somehow

getting somewhere

davidjaymz — Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:14:26 +0000

http://www.davidjaymz.com/images/layout%204.html

okay using GoLive5.0's Layout grids and floating boxes I have the above page. at the moment everything is static cos I'm just trying to get the look right and simple. at the moment the site is set to 800x600(ish).
One problem is the white section. This is where all the info will be. A) is this too small. if so can I make it scrollable?
B) With all the blue is there too much wasted space?
All opinions are welcome...
Cheers
DavidJaymz