mairving — Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:30:01 +0000

It really is not fair to compare Homesite to Dreamweaver. Homesite is mostly for hand coders. Dreamweaver is for non-hand coders. Dreamweaver does make some things like nested tables easier. But to me the major issue here is money. MSRP on Homesite is $89, Dreamweaver is about $300, unless you upgrade from Frontpage, GoLive but not Homesite which would make it $199. I upgraded Homesite to version 4.5 for $19.95. An upgrade for Dreamweaver is about $100. So we are not quite comparing apples to oranges here. That to me the price is the major issue. If they integrated some of the features into Dreamweaver and then dropped the price, I might be interested. Otherwise, I will stick with what brung me.

Adrian J. Moreno — Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:54:59 +0000

HomeSite and Cold Fusion Studio aren't going anywhere. Macromedia has to lay off people to meet profit margins now that the merger has been fully integrated. This happens whenever a large company buys out a smaller one. MM currently offers bundles for DW + HS or InterDev + CFS as a way to offer a discount on commonly used tools.

Spectra was on its way out per Allaire anyway, so was JRun. Macromedia already had their own content management server IIRC. Cold Fusion Server 5 just came out, but the next release (5.5 or 6) will be a Java-based server, which make JRun redundant. This new version, code-named Neo, will reduce the Cold Fusion server to Java servlets. This way you can run both Cold Fusion code and JSP on the same server and, I believe, in the same page.

taff — Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:21:21 +0000

DW & HS have had some level of integration for quite some time. Well, perhaps "harmonious coexistence" would be more apt. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they continue down this path now that Macromedia owns Allaire.

In the worst case scenario, I'd probably continue using HS 4.5 until it became woefully obselete and I was forced to search for an alternative.

Gyrbo — Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:46:37 +0000

DW and HS in one would be amazing. Good for source AND WYSIWYG.

mjames — Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:07:29 +0000

I'd hate to see HomeSite go, but at least there's solid alternatives. I personally use the free Textpad.

Megan — Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:59:57 +0000

I was actually thinking about how great that would be - to have DW & HS all in one program but that would be one heck of a large piece of software! Both are already pretty big as it is.

PaPa — Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:39:41 +0000

They may be intending to integrate HS as their code editor inside of Dreamweaver--seems like I read that somewhere. But I'm not really sure.

--Papa

merlin — Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:02:23 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by Megan Jack
Well, HS 4.x suits my purposes extremely well - at this point I couldn't ask for anything more in an editor, so I'd keep using it. Over the long term, who knows? It would depend on what kind of work I end up doing and the available alternatives.

same on my side. i'm still on HS4.0 and i don't see any need to upgrade (maybe i should upgrade to keep the software alive? )

the question is, why did they buy them? i don't know allaire that good, but besides CF and HS, what's left to be reason enough?

Megan — Wed, 11 Jul 2001 15:37:55 +0000

Well, HS 4.x suits my purposes extremely well - at this point I couldn't ask for anything more in an editor, so I'd keep using it. Over the long term, who knows? It would depend on what kind of work I end up doing and the available alternatives.

Another thing is - why do you think they bought Allaire in the first place? HS would be a big reason for that wouldn't you think? (CF is big too of course)

detox — Wed, 11 Jul 2001 15:04:05 +0000

you'd think so wouldn't you?

Question to all, if HS was taken off the market, what would people revert to? Obviously you'd stick with HS for as long as poss. Or do you think that the add-ons that you can script would keep the program going?