Busy — Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:42:47 +0000

tmuncy, it was made in editpad (text editor), FP isn't my cup of tea, and dreamweaver never does what it should ...
I've only done hand coding, just learnt the basic of the above so i can say I can use them, to be honest I have no idea what FP extensions and Cold Fusion are. only found out fireworks is a graphics program from in here last week - I use PSP.

The mouse overs are just hand done, thats why they are slow, they dont have a function, just onmouseover, onmouseout.

The mouseover layers is kind of from dreamweaver, the oringnal script was from there I think. (I borrowed and changed the script to suit), now I find it doesnt work on Netscape 4.6 on a Mac - can't win

I think I'll stick to tables (html) and mouseovers (javascript) at least these work in most browsers.

tmuncy — Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:04:38 +0000

It's cute. I like it . What a fight to load until I found your new URL. Remind me never to use NBCi for anything. Was this all done in Front Page? If so, I haven't learned about a lot of it's capabilities. Specifically I'd like to know if the button rollovers are a FP feature or if you added your own code for them. I'm not a big fan of black backgrounds, but there's not much reading to do and the foreground colors pop out nicely. I like the logo.

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TheGizmoid — Tue, 05 Jun 2001 04:00:45 +0000

w00t! It seems to be working at the new location, not the best for my browser, but I mean on a functioning server and the images are displaying (and with no ad bar).

Busy — Tue, 05 Jun 2001 01:17:36 +0000

That site seems doomed, nothing but problems from day one.

I reposted it on another site, hopefully this one works for you all
http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/kiwibusy/doodlepad/index.html

The Webmistress — Mon, 04 Jun 2001 16:05:43 +0000

I'm still getting a 404!

TheGizmoid — Mon, 04 Jun 2001 00:47:36 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by Busy
TheGizmoid when you say totally whacked you mean aligned hard left or all over the place?

Well, I don't think NS 4.6 likes layers at all. I've been trying to get back to your site. With the directory thingee, I got part of the page to load in NS (not in IE) even though not all of the graphics show up. What's weird is that if I keep refreshing, sometimes different graphics will show and ones that just showed will break.

The nbci tech support's pat answer was always to clear your cache and then do a "super reload" by holding down the shift key when you reload.

At 800x600 I'm only getting three buttons on the left and two larger images centered. You have little green and blue lines that I suspect are supposed to be acting like corners on the layout but they're rather discombobulated looking, especially at the bottom of the page.

I took a couple screen shots and when I get a chance to dumb them down in Photoshop, I'll send them to the yahoo address you had on the site.

Busy — Sun, 03 Jun 2001 23:06:22 +0000

Thanks TheGizmoid, helpful bit of info there
I've been getting a lot of 404's with that site to, which sucks as I posted a customers site on there for approval - I guess I wont be getting that job.

Anyways - I tried what you said today TheGizmoid, I got to the site, but no graphics showed up - I'll try repost it elsewhere, I cant even login to re-ftp the site. I am shopping around at the moment for a domain/server package. (and hopeing the exchange rate picks up)

TheGizmoid when you say totally whacked you mean aligned hard left or all over the place?
I tested it on Netscape 4.7 and 6, and IE 5 its mostly hidden layers. I aligned it hard left cause of the buttons. I am working on a new version, similar to that one but is done without the layers.

chris_anto — Sun, 03 Jun 2001 15:39:06 +0000

Im getting a 404 error also.

Chris

TheGizmoid — Sun, 03 Jun 2001 00:08:17 +0000

Busy, what browser/version did you design your site for? I was able to get to it briefly yesterday (right before I had to go somewhere) so didn't get to spend much time there, but the alignment was totally whacked in NS 4.6 and didn't look like I think you intended in IE 4.0 either.

Been trying to get back... last night I got to the page for a minute but all the images were broken and when I tried to refresh it gave another 404, and 404s are all I've gotten today.

I even tried the "intermediary directory thingee" and still got 404s, so it must be their servers again.

BTW, there is a way to enter your site bypassing their ad frame. Tech support posted it in their forum numerous times as a method of testing whether or not their ad frame was causing a page not to display, so I'm really not giving away any trade secrets here. Here's one I slapped together a couple years ago that seems to be on a working server at the moment.

http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/bluefold/index.html

You *must* include the .html or .htm page for it to work, even if "index.html" is the default and not normally required.

It would be a violation of their terms of service to attempt to circumvent their advertising frame by any means in your code, but as I see it, you are not responsible for how someone enters your site if they know about the directory thingee. I often add the intermediary directory level visiting an nbci site just because it gets rid of the frame and the one thing I really hate about frames is that you have to click within each frame before you can use keyboard scroll keys. (I have carpal tunnel, so extra mouse clicks are a pain in the wrist.)

TheGizmoid — Thu, 31 May 2001 18:10:18 +0000

I got a 404.

I've had sites at nbci for several years (moved now, but left pointers behind) and my experience with them is that they often seem to be down more than they're up. Also, the advertising frame they impose causes lots of coding problems. I used to volunteer at their help forum (since done away with) and there were a *lot* of unhappy nbci campers.