TFE — Mon, 21 May 2001 22:18:42 +0000

Jeff.
Drop it.

junkyrddog2k — Mon, 21 May 2001 10:25:21 +0000

yes these sites were built by me and the flash by my partner.

ok - outsourced meaning going to another friend of mine acting as a 3rd party

partner - theres two of us that run the site.

The Webmistress — Mon, 21 May 2001 08:10:05 +0000

I did try to point out our rules to you at the beginning!

Did you actually build these sites?
What are you going to be doing in this venture if you get others to the web design part?

Do what we have all said, look around at others sites, especially ones that are posted in this forum and give your opinions of them. It really does help gain a better perspective of sites and using Frontpage in my opinion is not going to help you build good sites. Also look around at the sites that offer exactly what you are offering, see how they promote themselves and learn from them (not copy)

junkyrddog2k — Mon, 21 May 2001 02:49:22 +0000

ok, well i'm learning and i understand what you mean but i have stated that i outsource it to our partners.

TheGizmoid — Mon, 21 May 2001 02:47:59 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by junkyrddog2k
I'm not using correct grammar and spelling correctly?

I didn't say that *you* weren't using correct grammar and spelling, just that those are the type of things I tend to notice first on many sites.

My point was that by also reviewing other sites, you develop a better "eye" and understanding of what's good or not-so-good to apply to your own as well.

junkyrddog2k — Mon, 21 May 2001 02:40:27 +0000

oook then... anyway thats why i'm not offering webdesign and have other services as well.

junkyrddog2k — Mon, 21 May 2001 02:38:05 +0000

I'm not using correct grammar and spelling correctly?

TheGizmoid — Mon, 21 May 2001 02:35:57 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by junkyrddog2k
could you review my other site? http://www.geocities.com/jccteens/teenvibenew/ ?

junkyrddog2k, if you will scroll up a bit, you will see that I have already given you some feedback on this site and why it would *not* inspire me to hire you.

I'd like to recommend a book to you: "Web Pages That Suck - Learn Good Design by Looking at Bad Design" by Flanders & Willis. It's a few years old now, but is still every bit as relevant as the day it came out. It has been my "bible" and I can't tell you how many times I've read it and recommended it. It's not an html "how-to" book, but rather, one that looks at design from a higher level and how to make it work better for your sites.

They also have a web site - http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com

And as mairving stated, you should probably try giving something back to this forum as well.

In all honesty, I can tell you that reviewing other sites will improve your critical eye and will actually help you a lot with your own. I tend to notice the minitua... bad spacing, misspelled words/bad grammar, etc.

But I've started to see the bigger picture in ways I never did before. At another forum I told a guy his logo was too bland, that it needed a swish, a squiggle, a dab of color, just *something* to make it jazzier. Well, it had an "i" in it and he dotted it with a nice starburst that really made a 100% improvement in my opinion. I hadn't even thought of that option and he helped me to see another solution that worked perfectly for his site.

It's really rewarding to see your advice get taken to heart and acted upon in a positive way.

junkyrddog2k — Mon, 21 May 2001 02:26:40 +0000

i must be blind cause i had someone review it on 2 different resolutions and they both worked perfectly.

mairving — Mon, 21 May 2001 01:55:08 +0000

Before we do that why don't you help us out. We have some rules here that are a bit lax but before we review your other site which has similar problems to your first one. Here are the rules:

Quote: Review Other Sites! (Mar. 20, 2001 until Dec. 31, 2002)
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The Web Site Critique Area is one of the most popular forums at TWF! This is understandable because almost everyone visiting TWF has a Web Site and we all want to know what others think about our site.

Anyone that has a site is free to post in this forum requesting input. We do ask though that if you request input on your site, you review three other sites. In fact, review as many sites as possible. After all, you know what it's like to receive input so why not help others?

You are not required to review other sites... But others will appreciate it.

Please understand that by requesting a review, your site will be reviewed by many. The three moderators of this forum will attempt to provide a review of each site requested... these moderators are all experienced Webmasters that have very good advice.

All reviews are simply advice. No review will be made with the intent of degrading your site or your qualities... We were all beginners at one time. If you receive a review that you feel is harsh, please understand that the individual is trying to help you and definitly didn't make the post to rip your site apart. Some reviews may be critical but take it as advice and work on the areas. You can only improve with advice.

With that being said, post your site for a review! And review other sites!

In doing a search on your name it appears that the only places that you have posted have been in this thread, in the jobs and barter forum and one other. So please help us out!