Mike Fisher — Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:43:09 +0000

Hah hah! We have beat you, JP! Please mail all of your belongings in a sealed brown envelope to..

JP Stones — Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:26:42 +0000

I have not read the full post but herer is a solution:
If you have Photoshop you prob have Image Ready.

Import any img from PS to IR and before saving optimised as set your matting to the webpage colour.
JP

Mike Fisher — Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:17:42 +0000

Well, if we're doing that, depending on the background, then I'd just say go with the Sponge-type dealio.

'Course, that's all I can think of, and as you said.. Photoshop is a constant surprise.

doren — Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:37:35 +0000

Mike,

>To be utterly blunt: I'd like to see a rare case; because in all of the cases I've ever seen it used in, it looks TERRIBLE.<

In my reply I was trying to shed light on the reasons that fringes appear, and how 'transparent' edges work. Most of the previous posters weren't thinking along this line and in my memory it is a subject that is a bit hard to grasp on first encounter.

However, I can give you a hypothetical example. If you had a varigated background (not a texture - say a photo) and you wanted to put a gif image with a rollover over the background. Now some may say that this is a bad design idea, but some clients insist on bad design. There are cases where you cannot convince a client that there are better avenues to persue.

But you are probably right. There are probably are better ways to accomplish this. Sliceing might be one. Can you suggest any others?

As for the sponge filter. It's one I rarely use but I'll be trying your suggestion. That's the nice thing about Photoshop. After years of using it I consistantly find new stuff I've either ignored or didn't know about.

Mike Fisher — Thu, 21 Sep 2000 03:20:01 +0000

Filter>Artistic>Sponge.

To be utterly blunt: I'd like to see a rare case; because in all of the cases I've ever seen it used in, it looks TERRIBLE.

doren — Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:57:25 +0000

Mike,

I can't find a sponge filter in my Photoshop, perhaps you mean the sponge tool.

I said RARE cases.

Re: White border

Mike Fisher — Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:00:04 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by doren
3) in rare cases you might want to put the actual background image under your potential .gif then cut out the area that shows outside the .gif.

You would -never- want to do this. This causes your images to look static from the background! If you had a background image that was something like a texture, what you would do was to first use the Sponge Filter, smack it up in that so that all of the colors blend.. and then apply.. select the color that appears the most.

That is horribly simplified, however. The fact remains that you'd never want make an image with the previous method.

oops!

doren — Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:57:46 +0000

I didn't read Brian's answer closely enough, sorry! he's right but hopefully you'll find my answer helpful.

White border

doren — Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:54:15 +0000

Pardon my bluntness but the suggested solutions are: sloppy kludges. Again excuse the bluntness as I know everyone is trying to help.

The cause of your white edges is known as anti-aliasing.

In the computer world edges are made with square pixels. Anti-aliasing was developed to aleviate the unnatural 'stair step'look that square pixels engender. Essentially what it does is make the pixels on the edge translucent so the background color shows through.

Better alternatives are:

1) use a background layer that matches the color of the background on the html page you are putting the final image on.

2) use a clear background. This however will result in the 'stair step' effect depending on how you output the final .gif. Sometimes this is the way to go however. To make a background layer clear you must double click on it and rename it layer 0 or anything but background.

3) in rare cases you might want to put the actual background image under your potential .gif then cut out the area that shows outside the .gif.

4) if you are working with someone elses image you might cut out the area around the image then use:

Layer/matting/defringe or the black or white matte options

This last way is also a kludge, and sloppy but what ever works.

OK if you have any more questions email me

cordedpoodle@hotmail.com

Crop It

Roo — Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:29:51 +0000

Luckily that white border is no longer and issue in PS 5.5. But to get around it just select inside the image and crop it...when you save you should no longer have that white border showing.

Roo