Adam Oberdorfer — Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:51:46 +0000

No you don’t have to compile. The Java coding is integrated within your HTML, like ASP or PHP. Upon executing (opening the JPS document) the server compiles that code and it acts like a servlet from then on out (from my understanding anyway).

Mark Hensler — Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:28:59 +0000

so you actually have to compile your stuff before you can use it?
can it be run as a script?

Adam Oberdorfer — Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:36:46 +0000

Precisely. I’m still just starting to learn JSP, but basically “Java Server Page” files have Java code which complies into a Servlet when executed.

The debate between ASP and JPS is strong. I haven't seen much information compairing JPS with PHP yet. Sun’s site has an interesting comparison chart for JPS/ASP at:

http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jsp-asp.html.

http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/ and http://www.serverpages.com/Java_Server_Pages/ have quite a bit of information as well.

Many servers support JSP; including Apache, IBM, Netscape, ISS, etc. Operating system wise it’s one of the most cross-compatible languages as well.

I have the demo version of Allaire JRun 3 and have been playing around with it. I also have DreamWeaver UltraDev, which supports JSP. Basically that’s what sparked my interest.

Mark Hensler — Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:14:59 +0000

I've been all over Perl and PHP and lately (for work), ASP. But I've only heard about JSP. And only briefly at that.

What does is stand for? Java Server Pages?
How does it compare to ASP and PHP? is it faster? easier?
What system does it require?

Adam Oberdorfer — Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:06:48 +0000

I’ve been considering purchasing Visual Studio 6. As mentioned previously the academic version is almost nothing compared to the full license. Only reason I’ve been putting it off is I have a client who already purchased the full version for another developer who didn’t work out. They said they’d give it to me if I worked on the project. That project should start in 2-3 weeks so I’m hoping I’ll get it through that for no cost..

I already have J++ 4 and Visual Basics 4. I’m looking forward to learning InterDev and expanding my ASP knowledge. I’ve always been geared towards UNIX for some reason. But, lately I've really been enjoying JSP and ASP development.

syaegerii — Tue, 19 Sep 2000 05:40:07 +0000

Thanks guys,

I almost forgot I had this post out there. I've only had contact with VB6 three times, in a little college class, but I was amazed at how fast one can begin producing some cool stuff. I already had QBasic, so that helped...guess I'll see if I can get financial aid to swing for the Visual Studio.

I haven't even worried about issues outside of my own noodling around:

I once heard of a guy making a logo in VB, but someone else said, "No graphics in VB." Can a guy make a stock price-chart in VB, or is it hard to put a Java applet in a VB GUI??

Is VB supported in Netscape Navigator, along with IE??

benc — Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:49:54 +0000

yay, i'm a full member! (never knew it was 30 posts =;)

oh, sorry, don't mind me

benc — Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:47:36 +0000

well, coming from a VB programmer, i strongly recommend getting the full-fledged version of it

Mark Hensler — Wed, 13 Sep 2000 05:25:59 +0000

just another note:

The version that came with the $15 Sams book was the "Working Model" It's great if you want to learn VB6. You can create whole programs, and run them in the debugger like usuall. You just can't compile them and run them elsewhere.

So if $$ is the prob, just get the $15 book.

Mark Hensler — Wed, 13 Sep 2000 05:23:25 +0000

There are no free VB6 compileres that I know of (and I had looked).

A while ago I baught a Sams book for $15 that came with a stripped down version (no compiler, help files).

Recently I bought the whole Visual Studio Professional Edition. It's great! It comes with Visual C++, Visual Basic 6, Visual J++, Visual InterDev, Visual FoxPro 6, and the MSDN Library (and other little goodies). If your interested in programming, and have a student ID, I'd say take the plunge, it's a whole lot more expensive without it!