Kilroy — Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:07:00 +0000

Currently I am being hosted by Liquidweb. I'm not sure if they will let me do that, After Laborday, I'll e-mail them and ask them...

anti — Tue, 07 Sep 1999 00:57:00 +0000

Hi Kilroy,

since you IP's have to be in the range of your uplink anyway.
(Otherwise routing could get very difficult and expensive.)
You should ask them for a small block (/4 or /5).

Having multiply (HTTP-)hosts on one IP is possible with http 1.0 upwards (I think all major clients use this protocol) and is called virtual hosting. But you can't do anonymous-ftp without an IP.
(Yes, you can, but it's complicated.)

ciao
Anti
ps:
Who is your uplink ?

Sat, 04 Sep 1999 03:02:00 +0000

Yes, it can and is done (we support it). Most hosts do it. Whether the host does it with our without a IP address is their choice (most do it without as it makes the price to you cheaper). Usually, if there is no IP address, it will cost you from $2-$10 per month. With an IP address, it will cost you $5-$15. Both depend on the providor.

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Kilroy — Sat, 04 Sep 1999 02:49:00 +0000

So... the next question: is there anyway to purchase, say 500mb's of server space, and assign more than one domain name to the server space. Can this be done with one IP, or would I have to purchase additional IP's from my host?? I am currently with Liquidweb, and they offer 250 mb's, but only one domain name. Before I ask them If I can assign more than one domain name to the server space, I would like to know if it can be done, and how much it may cost if there is extra IP's involved.....

MlKE — Sat, 04 Sep 1999 02:39:00 +0000

Isn't ARIN responsible for assigning IP blocks?

Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:04:00 +0000

You are correct. In order to purchase IP addresses, you will have to be able to use 205 of them within a week. This is my understanding on how the IP address system works. We, as a host, can't even purchase our own. We must purchase them from our upstream.

You would most likely have to co-locate your server with a host or in your ISPs facility. They would then sell you the IPs. This is how most businesses do it.

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Kilroy — Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:22:00 +0000

Forgot the URL:
http://www.military-net.com

Kilroy — Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:21:00 +0000

I forgot to mention, I currently at this time do not intend to be a web host provider, or a reseller, I only want to set up a web server for my own sites. How do individual businesses set up their servers if they have to buy 256 IP's, most of which may or may not be used??? You can view the site I am trying to set up using the URL below. Go to the Fiske Publishing link, and you can read about what I am trying to do with the site. The only thing that I can think of the alleviate this problem, is to become a web host provider, which I really do not want to do, yet...

Kilroy — Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:17:00 +0000

So if I wanted to set up my own server, I would have to use someone else's IP address?? The way I understand it, is I would have to purchase 256 IP's, and justify using 80% of them within a week, when I only actually need around 15-20 of them???

Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:06:00 +0000

You can't get IP addresses by yourself. For the most part, you have to be a very large host or a providor like UUnet or AT&T. And if you are able to get them, you must purchase them in blocks of 256 and you must be able to justify use of 80% within a week, if I remember correctly. You will have to obtain the IP addresses from your host or providor.

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