cds — Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:54:00 +0000

According to http://webopedia.internet.com/TERM/A/ATM.html ATM is:

Short for Asynchronous Transfer Mode, a network technology based on transferring data in cells or packets of a fixed size. The cell used with ATM is relatively small compared to units used with older technologies. The small, constant cell size allows ATM equipment to transmit video, audio, and computer data over the same network, and assure that no single type
of data hogs the line.

Current implementations of ATM support data transfer rates of from 25 to 622 Mbps (megabits per second). This compares to a maximum of 100 Mbps for Ethernet, the current technology used for most LANs. Some people think that ATM holds the answer to the Internet bandwidth problem, but others are skeptical. ATM creates a fixed channel, or route, between two
points whenever data transfer begins. This differs from TCP/IP, in which messages are divided into packets and each packet can take a different route from source to destination. This difference makes it easier to track and bill data usage across an ATM network, but it makes it less adaptable to sudden surges in network traffic.

Was no matches for XR1 and TR1

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cds — Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:29:00 +0000

Well, your dial up is probably easilink, and you're in vernal, utah , but I already knew where you are. Hop 5 is Salt Lake City
In hop 9, connects to above.net in Palo Alto, CA?? which briefly connects into the mae west system to pass it on to he.net (hurricane electric - i cheated and looked them up in WhoIs) in San Jose, CA. Would say your server(s) are in that general vicinity.

A lot of the nodes that use a 3 character code are using airport codes.

Could gw stand for gateway...does in other aspects of networking and gateway can be roughly translated to router.
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Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:39:00 +0000

A lesson huh? I never was good at teaching ... I actually had intentions of explaining some of this the last time you asked in this thread but I completely forgot so here goes.

ALTER.NET - UUNet Backbone (the best)
NYC - New York City (of course)
DCA - Washington DC
ATM - Type of connection line
GW - Type of connection line
TR1 - Type of connection line (I think)
XR1 - Type of connection line (I think)

Most of the time, the URL can be analyzed using the following:

connectiontype.city.server.com

Where connectiontype is in fact the type of connection it runs through (whether it be OC3, DS3, T3, etc.). This is usually one or two different items - connectiontype1.connectiontype2.

City is in fact the city that the connection is being made through.

Server.com is the name of the server that the connection is being made through. Sometimes the server.com can be one longer - something.server.com - most hosts and ISPs name their servers which would signigy the something.

Now a tracert of dids.com (go ahead and decipher it Dan - see if you understand):
Tracing route to dids.com [165.90.113.176]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 190 ms 167 ms 149 ms vernal4.easilink.com [192.41.78.4]
2 176 ms 149 ms 145 ms cisco.easilink.com [192.41.78.1]
3 182 ms 178 ms 166 ms 204-212-248-33.core1.itsnet.com [204.212.248.33]

4 186 ms 166 ms 210 ms wiggum.itsnet.com [192.41.96.1]
5 218 ms 245 ms 187 ms s1-1-0.gw03.slkc.eli.net [209.210.44.61]
6 234 ms 216 ms 218 ms fi4-1-0.cr01.slkc.eli.net [209.210.161.247]
7 187 ms 235 ms 261 ms a0-0--6.cr01.scrl.eli.net [207.173.113.174]
8 196 ms 228 ms 217 ms a8-0-0--1.cr01.plal.eli.net [207.173.114.69]
9 226 ms 208 ms 212 ms core1-gige.pao.above.net [209.249.0.244]
10 206 ms 204 ms 220 ms core1-mw-core1-pao-oc12.maew.above.net [207.126.
96.53]
11 223 ms 208 ms 251 ms mae-west-core1-oc3-2.maew.above.net [209.133.31.
182]
12 244 ms 229 ms 228 ms 100tx-f6-1.mae-west.he.net [207.126.96.98]
13 192 ms 205 ms 257 ms gige-g9-0.gsr12012.sjc.he.net [165.90.49.3]
14 195 ms 229 ms 226 ms dids.com [165.90.113.176]

Trace complete.

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Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:29:00 +0000

Dan,

Pretty darn good if I say so myself. Hop 5 does in deed connect to Palo Alto, CA (above.net). It is then passed over to the MAE-WEST routers/servers. It so happens (and we don't know why because we aren't affiliated with them in any way) that it goes through the he.net servers/routers. They do have their servers/routers in the MAE-WEST building as well. Our servers are in deed in the MAE-WEST building in San Jose, CA.

I am not a networking expert either and that is why I wasn't sure of the abbreviations for those items but I think gateway for gw is a very good assumption. I notice that a lot of them ar GW5 or GW# - meaning that it is probably a router - router whatever of so many that it could have gone through.

I do know that ATM is in fact a type of a line. Any guesses or knowledge on what TR1 and XR1 is?

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Grandmaster — Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:41:00 +0000

wow 100-200 is good at night i guess : ) The Ping is slow cause i live in the booneys (woods) so i only get a 24.000kb connection... but i hope to get something faster.

cds — Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:14:00 +0000

Have to admit, it's 1 am, but these # are really good.

Tracing route to www.21studios.com [63.71.77.45]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 151 ms 140 ms 140 ms 216.36.38.250
2 221 ms 140 ms 140 ms 216.36.38.254
3 150 ms 161 ms 140 ms hssi0-0-0-105.gw1.pdx.pcrest.net [216.36.25.49]
4 161 ms 160 ms 180 ms 216.36.25.86
5 151 ms 160 ms 160 ms 216.88.192.109
6 230 ms 161 ms 160 ms 216.88.192.105
7 200 ms 161 ms 160 ms 905.Hssi5-0.GW1.SEA1.ALTER.NET [137.39.136.5]
8 161 ms * 170 ms 104.ATM2-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.200.50]
9 150 ms 160 ms 160 ms 195.ATM3-0.TR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.200.102]
10 320 ms 241 ms 260 ms 110.ATM7-0.TR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.136.229]
11 221 ms 240 ms 220 ms 299.ATM6-0.XR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.161.137]
12 220 ms 221 ms 220 ms 195.ATM9-0-0.GW3.DCA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.161.77]
13 221 ms 220 ms 240 ms awwm-gw.customer.ALTER.NET [157.130.16.58]
14 220 ms 241 ms 220 ms 21studios.com [63.71.77.45]

Trace complete.
Hey Chad, How about a lesson on what some of the stuff actually means. I can pick out some of the meanings (abbreviations), but not all.

pdx - portland, OR
sea - Seattle
DCA - I think is washington dc

What are some of the others listed?

Grandmaster, I'm in NT, but I click on the Icon in upper left corner of my DOS box. Choose edit, mark and then copy. Then I just paste it into this box using Ctrl V. I would say if you're gettin that slow of a ping, I would talk to your dial-up provider.

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shaneh — Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:32:00 +0000

500-700ms isn't very good. You should shoot for, at least, the 300s or better. You may want to talk to your hosting provider.

Shane Harter

Grandmaster — Tue, 29 Jun 1999 02:03:00 +0000

i did a tracert rout thing on my site www.21studios.com and it came up with 500ms - 700ms is that good ? how do i copy and paste trace results?

JP Stones — Wed, 23 Jun 1999 03:59:00 +0000

Dan, at your service...

1 138 ms 138 ms 138 ms th-pm00.netdirect.net.uk [195.7.224.8]
2 140 ms 140 ms 140 ms perseus-fa-0-0.netdirect.net.uk [195.7.224.39]
3 162 ms 144 ms 152 ms netdirect-gw.routers.business.net.uk [194.88.66.
249]
4 187 ms 141 ms 147 ms 194.88.67.69
5 142 ms 210 ms 197 ms ma-atm-155.routers.business.net.uk [194.88.80.10
3]
6 149 ms 142 ms 154 ms chi-gw-03.business.net.uk [194.88.80.201]
7 144 ms 143 ms 144 ms 212.113.14.1
8 145 ms 143 ms 153 ms 212.113.2.65
9 215 ms 216 ms 218 ms 209.244.3.197
10 220 ms 218 ms 228 ms core1.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.244.2.209]
11 218 ms 218 ms 215 ms level3-1.CR-1.NymcNY.savvis.net [209.83.160.25]

12 245 ms 256 ms 243 ms atm9-0-038.CR-1.StlsMO.savvis.net [209.83.222.9]

13 579 ms * * communi-1.SsE40.StlsMO.savvis.net [209.16.211.19
8]
14 259 ms 272 ms 264 ms communi-1.KscyMO.savvis.net [209.144.53.194]
15 268 ms 273 ms 274 ms www.what-next.com [209.15.7.48]

...completed trace!

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Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:42:00 +0000

Fairhousing,

Dan and I did that "niffty" little trick at the DOS prompt... Just open a DOS window and type "tracert www.something.com" It will do the rest. Go ahead and do it for www.zebra.net. You see all the ALTER addresses in the tracert? Those are good to see because they mean the connection is on a UUnet backbone which is the best out there - it is more expensive because it is a privatly held company, but UUnet is the best you can get. Further, it looks like they really are hooked directly into a OC-3 backbone because of the second to last hop. I think www.zebra.net would have much better connections.

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