Voltec — Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:17:00 +0000

No offense Joeseph,

But the reason you don't have to worry about charging for bandwidth is that you are priced higher for all of your accounts... so those that don't have high bandwidth sites are actually paying for the excess of any that do.

I would rather see a web host that is fair and resonable with overall webspace and charges a small fee for higher traffic than one that charges higher amounts for everyone and has 'no limit'.

My website has debunked the 'no limit' on two different web hosts in the past and it has cost my reputation. We are our website and if it goes down, our users only see it is down and may never come back to see why.

But I ramble... I am glad to see you are doing well with your enterprise and wish you continued success.

Matt

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Sat, 19 Jun 1999 22:57:00 +0000

Interesting discussion!
I've started my webhosting service in 1994 and am currently hosting 800+ websites for small businesses from 46 countries.
I'm truly offering unlimited hits and unlimited bandwidth without any hows and ifs (period).
It has cost me a relatively small investment in server technology, on the other side I've nothing to do on checking and monitoring client's traffic, no additional maintainance on tracking software, no additional billings etc., and the best of all I've satiesfied customers providing alot of word-of-mouth promotion.
All the con postings in this discussion seem to be allegations, that I'm kindly asking for real facts. What's wrong with my policies?
You may visit me off the list at <http://linz1.net/aboutus.html>
Thanks!
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cds — Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:25:00 +0000

Thanks Brian and Chad,
Think I understand. Course i might just think i understand;)

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Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:04:00 +0000

Dan,
Brian pretty much explained it. That is one of the biggest problems - companies will say that they give you a whole GB which can easily provide 500,000 hits and the newbie goes "WOW! 500,000 Hits!" In reality, the file size could only be 2.1 kb (not even a graphicd) and can only be hit 500,000 times. There is NO (I repeat NO) way to change bandwidth into hits! It is impossible! There is no way to say a Web Site is average because even if you were to have one page that is 25kb and another that is 26kb, sure they are both very close to the same size but when you compare the hits each could take given 5 GB of bandwidth, there is a significant difference (209,715 hits for the 25kb page and 201,649 hits for the 26kb page = a difference of 8,066 hits). I hope all that made sense and proved my point

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Brian Farkas — Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:14:00 +0000

That's kind of a hard question. You would have to multiple the file size accessed by the number of visitors. For exampe, if 1000 users hit a 100 KB file, you would have used 100,000 KB, or 100 MB, or .1 GB of bandwidth. If 1000 users hit 10 100 KB files, you would have used 1 GB of bandwidth.

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cds — Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:47:00 +0000

Hi,
I think i'm a #2 type of webmaster and have learned alot hanging around and reading what you all have to say. I even put my .02 cents worth in occasionally and hope you learn from me in turn.

Anyway, here's my question? Based on averages of typical websites with graphics and moderate cgi use with say 1000 hits per day, what would the average bandwidth use be? Or is this a real loaded question?

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CWebNetCo — Fri, 28 May 1999 02:16:00 +0000

Zee,

This URL may lead your answer for the question you are asking for:

http://cgi.elitehost.com/bandwidth/demo.shtm

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Zee — Thu, 27 May 1999 23:41:00 +0000

Just a question, but isn't there a cgi script that stops people from linking to your images/files etc.? Would this help in reducing the bandwidth used?

fairhousing — Thu, 27 May 1999 20:59:00 +0000

Well, I'm a type 1 webmaster as detail in an above post. I'm just hanging tight and waiting to see what my host does because I'm steadily burning up bandwidth and cpu (cgi) more and more everyday.

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Brian Farkas — Thu, 27 May 1999 17:14:00 +0000

Well, sometimes that's true and sometimes it's not. For example, from Pwebtech:

Quote:
We are pleased to offer our clients unlimited Web page traffic. To
maintain the integrity of our service the following limitations apply:

Multiple hosts resolving at an ip or domain name that we
provide.
Sites with Banners, graphics or cgi's running from their
domain used on other domains.
Sites with archives or galleries (.gif, .jpg, exe, zip, tar, etc ...)
Sites offering download files. (This is any site where 20% or
more of there monthly traffic is from file downloads)
No unauthorized reselling of disk space.
Sites using more than 10% of system resources. For those
that do not qualify for the unlimited service, traffic will go
unmonitored until you reach 3 gigs. Thereafter, normal data
transfer cost of $10.00/1 gig will apply.

This description could really fit anyone. For example, say that someone would like to link to your site. Even one person linking to site.com/banner.gif would reduce your limit from unlimited to 3 GB. Fairly big drop, wouldn't you say ?

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