Randall — Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:57:00 +0000

CSS HA!!!!!!!!!!

Cascading style sheets? They aren't even supported by older browsers, why would you use it for you navigation?

I use Server Side includes and PHP because my server can handle it... CSS has to be rendered on the client and slower computers running netscape will take forever to render it because netscape's current rendering engine just plain sucks.

If you are on a server with a lot of sites, maybe ssi isn't the way to go, but I make sure I have sufficient hardware on my server to handle server parsed files with SSI and php. I don't think these parsed files take nearly as many reasources as perl scripts or perl generated pages, and I see very little cpu usage on my current server.

I am not saying CSS is bad, I think it is a great idea, however, you just can't rely on it yet, it is too young. Hopefully, like you said, all the browsers will come to fully support the standards instead of adding radios to the browsers.

[This message has been edited by Randall (edited 12 December 1999).]

Curtis Stevens — Sat, 11 Dec 1999 02:03:00 +0000

I just ment to open the the pages to edit the html in a note page through the ftp program. I was just saying to open the the ftp program and open all your html files that are on your computer and edit them. The ftp program calls it as a text note pad instead of a html document, which it will open in a note pad. If you opened it up in Windows Explore, it will come up in a browser and not note pad.

Thanks
Curtis

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Maverick — Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:57:00 +0000

Curtis, you're doing things the REALLY REALLY hard way. Sure, global editing is easier than doing it for each file individually, but doing it through an FTP program????

There are hundreds of good HTML editors designed for the express purpose of creating and editing HTML files quickly and easily. Why would you want to do it with an FTP program? That's a little like using a fork to eat soup. Sure, you can make it work if you want to waste a lot of time and effort, but it's not something to recommend to others as an effective way to get the job done.

First people, to anyone that does site remodeling by global editing:
1) Get a good HTML editor. It's a lot better than working with a text editor or FTP program. Use the right tool for the job.
2) I cannot stress this strongly enough, DO YOUR EDITS LOCALLY AND UPLOAD TO THE SERVER!!! Do not do remote file editing. If the server burps and loses your files you're screwed. Always keep a site mirror on your own hard drive, edit that and then upload. That way if the remote files are lost you have a local copy as backup (and vice versa).

But, doing site remodels via global file editing is old school. That might have been okay in the dark ages when no better tools were available, but now it's just wasted effort. As Randall mentioned, Server Side Includes (SSI) is one way to handle things, but it's not flexible enough for my tastes, nor is it a responsible use of server resources. If the server is forced to parse EVERY SINGLE PAGE it delivers in order to add headers and footers it's operating far slower than it should and might adversely effect other sites or domains sharing the hardware. It also slows down your site when others do it. What bothers me about SSI is that it's really only effective for changing small aspects of the site (like headers and footers), but is a very poor tool for changing element positioning. For that you need Cascading Style Sheets.

Learn how to use CSS effectively and it will change your life. All your pages can be changed and remodeled merely by editing one .css file. You can changes headers, footers, colors, element positioning, lay-out and almost everything except your core content. It's faster and more effective than any other lay-out/remodeling method available today, it's supported by virtually every server on earth (even the FWPs that don't allow SSI) and it won't clog up the server by parsing non-essential file elements. CSS is a little like microwave ovens. Use it for a little while and you'll wonder how we ever lived without it. Now, if Microsoft, Netscape and Opera would get around to supporting the CSS standards instead of implementing things in their own unique way......

Randall — Thu, 09 Dec 1999 06:24:00 +0000

My Article of updating your site quickly...

Create all your pages with SSI,

Here is my header

Here is my Navigation

(Content goes here)

Here is my footer

Now I just edit header.txt, nav.txt, and footer.txt and all my pages are updated in a matter of seconds

Justin S — Tue, 07 Dec 1999 18:15:00 +0000

Nicely written!

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jackchen — Tue, 07 Dec 1999 07:38:00 +0000

Easy. Press Print Screen or Alt+Print Screen if you only want to capture the current active window.

Tue, 07 Dec 1999 03:48:00 +0000

how did you make those screen shots?

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