Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:33:00 +0000

Go get em, maybe they will learn!!

Jaiem — Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:42:00 +0000

Talk about spamming, there's this company in NC that (claims) to do sell refurbished laser toner cartridges. They've been sending us dozens of emails daily for months! And their emails specifically say you can not be removed by replying to the message or by calling there 800 number. You have to call their regular number (and pay long distance). When you do either it rings and rings and rings and no answer or you get a machine.

Finally, back in April we sent them a letter saying that if they continue to use our email addresses for solicitation we will bill them $500 per message starting May 1st. Well, that stopped them - for a moment. Now they're sending it again to a different email at our company (i.e. before they sent their spam to abc@artsnflies.com, now they're sending it to xyz@artsnflies.com).

Guess what? We're billing them! So far I think I have enough overdue bills from them to pay off my car. And my girlfriend is very tenacious about this sort of thing so we will collect one way or another.

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Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:08:00 +0000

anti- you seem to be going through some rough times, hang in their buddy!

anti — Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:41:00 +0000

Sorry,

I had some busy weeks.

RIPE (www.ripe.net) is the european center for "internet data".
Your nic-handles are (at least for europeans) in fact ripe-handles.
(Also that changed a bit ... and I'm not up-to-date.)

My adult sites are on an adult host, but CT offered to host them instead.

I didn't get any answer so far from CT.

If my laywers weren't busy with keeping me out of jail I would "do something" to stop CT, but right now I have bigger problems.

Did anyone accept their offer ?

Curtis Stevens — Sat, 17 Jun 2000 06:21:00 +0000

In my opinion, if a company is lousy enough to go to spamming, then they do not deserve your order. If they can not pay for their own advertising and have to do it the illegal way, then I think they are just as lousy as you can go. It is business ethics that fall into place.

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Ted — Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:43:00 +0000

quote:He didn't say where he was hosted now, he was talking about Communitech.

Ah, I read to fast.

If they really did "mine" the whois list and that is supposed to be not allowed, IMHO, I would not go there no matter how good their offer. If they do something sleazy with their marketing, they certainly could be the same way with their customer support and service.

cmarks — Wed, 07 Jun 2000 17:02:00 +0000

It appears they definitely mined the whois database for their lists. The domains they sent the spam to me was referenced by the NIC handle for those domains. Shady, illegal(?), and I think should be condemned throughout the media and this business.

Ted — Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:14:00 +0000

Yes, please share what the term "ripe data" means.

Did I understand you correctly in that you operate a few adult sites where there is "no adult content" allowed? If so, I sure hope you have an emergency plan to follow the day they shut you down with no notice. They will do it the day your traffic over-taxes their server.

chicken — Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:13:00 +0000

He didn't say where he was hosted now, he was talking about Communitech. He mentioned that he wanted to keep his name off the site (for personal reasons).

I am guessing the ripe data he was talking about was from a whois lookup. The only way to connect a domain to its owner. If you don't have your name or email address on your site, and you get spammed, you know where it came from.

edit spelling error

[This message has been edited by chicken (edited 07 June 2000).]

cmarks — Tue, 06 Jun 2000 01:33:00 +0000

I got the same **** and personally think they should be given the same treatment any spammer gets...shut down. I would never go with them strictly because they use such underhanded techniques. It's pathetic and I hope they unleash a barage of hack attempts and DoS attacks...morons