pgloor — Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:32:00 +0000

Just was browsing the Ultimate Bulletin Board for the same reason and have come to more or less the same conclusion.

However, I will make an entry page to check the browser and than take different paths depending on the browser. Using Domino will let me realize this approach relatively easy.

Two years ago we designed our first WEB site and had the same problems. Strange enough that even the lates browser versions still don't behave any better.

Over the last two days I was looking around what others with silmilar types of web sites are doing - and surprise, surprise - they don't use frames at all. Now, I understand why!

An eksample of what I'm trying to achieve is something like www.seattleweekly.com but with frames (www.seattleweekly.com doesn't use frames at all).

Eugene Grinberg — Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:01:00 +0000

Thanks guys,

I appreciate your comments, and I think that I'm gonna have to go with Malte's suggestion. I will write a script which will check for the browser type, and it will increase the frame by a few pixels if the browser is Netscape.

I would also like to thank NSS for your suggestion. I am afraid that it's not going to work though, because I need exact sizes for my frames because of the images that are supposed to form a globe, if properly aligned. Setting the frame sizes to %'s would not accomplish that. But thanks anyway, I really appreciate the time you took to suggest your idea.

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NSS — Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:11:00 +0000

I viewed your code for the page using frames. Below is the new code, it should have the same effect for Netscape and IE.

Please change the setting to your requirements, I set it for (rows 25%,75%) and (cols 50%,50%)

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<html>
<head>
<TITLE>InterProSolution.com - Complete Internet Promotion Solution - internet promotion tools and services,
submit your site to search engines and directories , web marketing, successful business, banner exchange </TITLE>
</head>

<frameset framespacing="0" border="false" frameborder="0" rows="25%,75%">
<frame name="banner" scrolling="no" noresize target="contents" src="top.asp"
marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
<frameset cols="50%,50%">
<frame name="contents" target="main" src="menu.asp" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0"
marginheight="0" noresize>
<frame name="main" src="products_main.asp" scrolling="auto" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
</frameset>
<noframes>
<body topmargin="0" leftmargin="0">
<p>This page uses frames, but your browser doesn't support them.</p>
</body>
</noframes>
</frameset>
</html>
.............................................

NSS http://www.unitronics.com

[This message has been edited by NSS (edited 14 February 2000).]

Malte — Mon, 14 Feb 2000 05:11:00 +0000

There are always problems in both browser with frame width and heights. they never work in both browsers. You should never integrate two frames except with a color are, so it doesnt matter if you there are a few pixels off or too much.

Try to make the frame a little bigger than neccessary, so it works in both borwsers.

Malte

Eugene Grinberg — Sun, 13 Feb 2000 05:51:00 +0000

Thanks guys,

I tried your suggestions, and unfortunately they did not work. The problem is with the FRAMESET. My left frame is supposed to be 226 pixels, but in Netscape it's smaller than that. Maybe I should just use a script which will increase the size of the left frame if the browser is Netscape.

What do you think?

Jim Shilt — Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:43:00 +0000

Try adding the following BODY tag to all of the pages.

This will set the page margins to zero. One set will set it for IE the other for Netscape.

Let us know if this works.

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merlin — Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:28:00 +0000

have you specified 'framespacing=0' in your code? as i know, it's needed for IE to seperate the frames correctly.

as you say, NS doesn't show it the right way, eventhough i like it more...