merlin — Mon, 24 Jan 2000 10:22:00 +0000

yeah great, it worked! finally i solved this problem with your help! thank you all!!!!!

merlin — Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:38:00 +0000

thank you john! i'll try it out tomorrow (it's sunday evening, i'd say i won't touch that thing now... )
i'll comment it after trying.

John Pollock — Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:23:00 +0000

OK, here it is!

NS had a problem with the font:Arial part of the code in the body declaration. The font set by itself is supposed to be used as a shortcut to writing font-family, font-size, etc. individually. Apparently the font-family or the font were trying to override each other and made NS give up. To fix it, just get rid of the font:Arial and instead of font-family:sans-serif just use font-family:Arial (Arial is sans-serif anyway from what I recall). So make it like this in the css:

BODY { font-family:Arial; font-size:12pt; background-color:6378CB;}

Fixed it for me in NS 4.7, hope it works for you too.

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John Pollock — Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:29:00 +0000

I'll take a closer look when I get NS reinstalled (new computer). For grins, you might try matching the case (in the style sheet you have BODY but in the page you have <body>. I doubt that's it but it could be worth a try. I'll get a closer look when I can.

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merlin — Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:59:00 +0000

no sorry, it's not solved yet...
but i got some hints:
- background-colour is white with N, still i have defined a kind of blue (IE shows the right one)
- font is Times New Roman with N, still i defined it as arial, sans-serif in the css (IE shows the right one)
- the size of some classes isn't shown as i want it to with N (IE does it right)

i tried it with internal and external style-sheets, you may have a look at: http://www.inventazo.ch/ausbildung.htm (internal) or http://www.inventazo.ch/ausbildung_2.htm (external).

thanx for comments!

Jack Michaelson — Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:46:00 +0000

RC,
I said "...and don't want everybody to copy it easily you might want..."
(no offense)
A lot of people still don't know that something like a cachefolder exists.

Alibabababababababa,
Thought your problem was solved?

Jack.

[This message has been edited by Jack Michaelson (edited 20 January 2000).]

RC — Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:11:00 +0000

I hope nobody uses the <script language="javascript" src="YourPath"></script> to stop people from viewing the source because this will not work.

Example:

go to www.microsoft.com and view the source. You will see this near the top:

The only way I know how to do this is with Windows Netscape 4.7 (and maybe lower) so you have to have that for this example to work. In windows explorer go to Program Files/Netscape/Users/*YOURUSER*/Cache and delete everything in the directory except for the file fat.db. The in Netscape goto the microsoft page again. Then look in the cache directory and you will see 4 files. You will see fat.db and three randomly named .js files, which correspond to the .js files from the page. You can also capture .css files this way, and I have even seen .asp files in there before although I think they were created on the fly as they had no code.

Anyway, not trying to teach people how to "steal" code, just letting people know that anything you put in your online public folder can be seen by the world.

cheers

merlin — Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:14:00 +0000

there are no ideas how to solve my problem i suggest?

Jack Michaelson — Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:27:00 +0000

Yes,
but external js files can be done like this also:

When visitors view your source they can't find any of the javascript-functions then. With the -option they can.
Now I know that's not really a problem, but when you're really proud of your selfcreated js-functions and don't want everybody to copy it easily you might want to use it.

And about external CSS-files:
don't use:<style></style>

Jack

Vincent Puglia — Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:15:00 +0000

Hi Jack,

No, you didn't. I'm just not that fluent in external css. All of the stuff I've done with it has either been with the head tags or inline. I know with js you can include the tags if your include statement is of the <!-- #include ... type. I extrapolated from that and assumed the same could be done with css files. (As Felix of "The Odd Couple" once said: 'Never assume...U make an...' -- a hard lesson to learn.)
Sorry for the confusion.

Vinny GrassBlade:cut&paste javascript