Comments wanted - Olcore.com
We have seen some great feedback, both good and bad, in a lot of the posts on this forum and would love to hear what everyone has to say about Olcore.com.
Olcore.com is a new search engine helping optimize what both webmasters and searchers get out of a search engine. Give us a look over, read over our documentation, and let us know what you think.
Many thanks!
Relevancy is key! Get the most out of your keywords: http://www.olcore.com
carle posted this at 18:29 — 18th October 2006.
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Site is good by usabilty,but design is like in older sites,if you make design more modern site would be excellent
olcore posted this at 20:47 — 18th October 2006.
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That's a great suggestion, thank you! We will certainly take that into consideration.
pitbull82 posted this at 21:38 — 20th October 2006.
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Well, it doesn't look very nice.
My advises:
1) Change fonts - they should be smaller
2) Logo - could be more creative or at least change font and colours
3) The code of the page is so simple but it looks like as it was created 10 years ago. Maybe you should read sth about XHTML?
Generally, you should spend a bit more time, to impress me (and the others I suppose)
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PopeCuervoLime posted this at 04:52 — 21st October 2006.
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You have a good idea but the logo needs to be re-designed to look a lot less like Google. As for the layout and aesthetics it looks like Google, but if you're aiming for a simple search (i.e. bare bones) then maybe that's okay.
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tbends posted this at 05:12 — 21st October 2006.
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my thoughts exactly.
Busy posted this at 10:40 — 21st October 2006.
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It seems to much like a copy cat of google with the font and colouring of it, even the placement on the page.
The search results are very thrown together, looks more like a link farm than search results if searhing for very general things.
you need to use valign="top" in your td for your search results
How do you pronounce olcore - oh core ?
The fact you don't actually have a web bot/spider concerns me (as much as they peeve me off), people would/could very easily rig the sites to suit your terms then change them, after you get a few thousand sites I doubt you'd be checking them all every month.
You need to cut out the basic words in search terms, things like 'the', 'and', 'when', 'what' ... should not bring up results, even 'th' brings up results (which display ramdom results after the what appears paid ones).
Your slogan is: "With Olcore.com, there are no more spammed links, no more sponsored links where the big wallets dictate the rules, and no more advertisements. Now, all webmasters have an equal chance to submit their websites with relevancy being our only rule." What if I did not have a credit card or paypal account, i wouldn't have "an equal chance" as the paid adverts, sorry listings, would be displayed first.
The paid listings may not dictate the rules but they do dictate the results.
Without becoming a link farm, I can't really see this becoming of much (sorry for being harsh - just honest), dmoz is free (100%) and has a lot of weight in the field, you really need to step away from the paid submissions and do something really different (and get a search bot). as to what, sorry mind is blank, but with so many ma and pa search engines out there you really need to be different.
Jonathan Dewey posted this at 12:49 — 10th November 2006.
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Hi Olcore,
Nice idea in principle but i am wondering how you intend to get sufficient "returned results" for ppl. This may have been fine in 1996 but you'll need a heck of alot of marketing to get it going.
Have you thought of perhaps adding a community feature to the search engine (check out chacha.com // trexy.com for some ideas)
Good luckwith it all! Hope you succeed!
Cheers
Jonathan
olcore posted this at 19:46 — 12th November 2006.
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I think to answer most of your concerns, our crawler will handle most of the results worries that have been brought to our attention.
We have toyed with the though of a blog or something for us to post news and accept comments and feedback. I will check out those sites that you mentioned to see what you mean. We appreciate the feeback!
Relevancy is key! Get the most out of your keywords: http://www.olcore.com
olcore posted this at 00:22 — 23rd October 2006.
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Thank you all for the feed back. We have gotten some great ideas and feedback and will certianly take you suggestions to heart.
To answer some of your questions:
- Olcore is pronounced "Ole - Core"
- Sadly, any search engine, bot/spider, or online service can be taken advantage of in one way or another. The way our system works, we will validate sites periodically to assure they meet our standards, as well as yours (the searcher), in order to keep our data valid and useful.
- We do understand that some webmasters might not have access to a credit card or a PayPal account. If you want to take advantage of a paid subscription for more visibility, PayPal is the only method of payment we accept at this time. Signing up for a PayPal account is easy and secure, not to mention free.
- When we say "big pockets don't dictate the rules...", we mean that you can't get yourself on top by spending more money than someone else. There are two levels, free and paid. Based on your keywords, you might be able to get better visibility off a free submission than a paid one, it's all up to you. The only advantage you can have by paying, is that your site will perform better than a free site of the same keyword. If there are 100 websites with "weight loss" as a keyword and only 6 of them paid, those six will have an advantage. At the same time, if there are 100 websites with the keyword "weight loss" but your site is the only one that has the keyword "easy weight loss diet," you just narrowed the playing field down so that when someone searches for "weight loss diet" or "easy weight loss," your site will be listed over all the other ones because yours is more specific. So there are many ways to have an advantage over your competition. Paying is just one surefire way.
- To read more about how olcore.com is different than the other, so callled, "ma and pa search engines," take a moment and look over our documentation. http://www.olcore.com/about.php
Thank you all again for the comments and feedback. Everything you have to offer, both positive and negative, gives us ideas on how to better our service.
Relevancy is key! Get the most out of your keywords: http://www.olcore.com
miketaylor posted this at 02:34 — 23rd October 2006.
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Too simple in design!! -1 for design
sweetashomie posted this at 04:10 — 25th October 2006.
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Firstly I'd like to say that your sites layout is easy on the eye so congratulations for that. Also submitting my own site (http://www.speedypc.4000webs.com) was a simple process and worked well.
My only real complaint would be that in your "About Olcore" page you seem to waffle on about what the website is for without explaining that it very well.
However, once I understood what the idea behind the site was I must say that your site has the right idea by cycling the results.
Overall I would say that you have done a really good job on your website and I will be adding it to my bookmarks for sure!
Thanks,
Sam
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Renegade posted this at 01:04 — 30th October 2006.
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How much thought about the "design" of your site was put in to it? It doesn't really look like much. This is because the colours of the site don't really work well together. You also seem to be just using the default fonts. Ditto about the whole "Google" look.
In the first quote, you say that webmasters have an equal chance but then, later on, you go on to say that paid submissions perform better. Doesn't sound "equal" to me. Also doesn't sound like "relevancy" is your only rule either.
Additionally, in the second quote, the two sentences seem to contradict each other. We might get better visibility with a free submission but, paid submissions have an advantage over free ones.
Would you like to clarify on your rules here?
olcore posted this at 02:06 — 30th October 2006.
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The design is being revamped; Olcore.com will have a fresh new look. We will certainly love to hear how all of you feel on the new one once it's completed and published.
All webmasters do have an equal chance. $9.99 a year is the only way to have an advantage. If you read the FAQ, it does better explain that we make no guaruntees about how well your listing will perform. Due to our engine being based on relevancy, your choice of keywords that accurately describe your site are required in order to perform well. If you want to pay the yearly fee, you will perform better versus other sites that have the same keywords. As Olcore.com's database grows, the differences in paid vs. free will truly show themselves.
Short version: If two websites join up and both use the same keywords, they both have an equal opportunity to be listed on top of the results. If one pays the small fee, they will benefit. If the other one pays the fee as well, both are in equal running to be listed on top once again. The buck stops there. You can't pay $15 a month to get more of an advantage. This is how Olcore.com equals up the playing field.
I hope that helps clarify our logic. Feel free to browse the rest of the site and let us know if you have any other questions.
Thank you again for the feeback!
Relevancy is key! Get the most out of your keywords: http://www.olcore.com
markov posted this at 08:14 — 25th October 2006.
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The site looks neat and clean. But what the users expect from a search engine is different. The design is too simple and looks like a me..too of Google. Logo is not attractive. Just it looks like a full adaption from big brother GOOGLE. Payment for site submission... ! Then one can find only less submissions. Make the site more creative ! Good Luck.
jakel posted this at 09:56 — 25th October 2006.
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Ok, I actually submitted my site to Olcore. Very user friendly forms submit no problems submitting my site. Front page has a Google look to it; I suppose that’s what you were going for or maybe simplicity. The statement below the search is not needed leave it out, you already have a submit link at the bottom. Anyway over all looks ok to me.
Thank you,
Jason
www.jakeldaily.com
danielneri posted this at 22:20 — 25th October 2006.
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Works well. very user friendly. might actually start using this regularly!!!
JoseffB posted this at 22:31 — 25th October 2006.
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Automatic turn off from it looking like a google want to be.
I couldn't manage to pull up any results (maybe this is becuaase you havent loaded yet)
I think what people want in a search engine is a aggregator of information.
Only speaking for myself, I want to be able to do a search and have it pull up everything -- RSS Feeds, Blogs, Newsgroups, Images, Websites, Newsletters.
This is especially true when I'm troubleshooting a system.
heebiejeebieclu posted this at 19:44 — 26th October 2006.
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Ok, so you're better than the 'Ma and Pa' search engines - but give me one reason why you're better than DMOZ, for instance?
olcore posted this at 19:01 — 29th October 2006.
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First and most importantly, thank you all so much for your compliments. Olcore.com is for the users, and hear such feedback is a great contribution to Olcore's sucess.
One question Olcore would like to address is the one about why is Olcore better than dmoz.com? One reason is this: Olcore.com doesn't use anyone else's data. dmoz, although a open source directory, uses information from AOL's search. While they do have a large amount of data to search, they lack in the way of relevancy.
We are by no means out to compete with Google, Yahoo, dmoz, etc.. But we are looking to find new ways to benefit webmasters and searchers alike by making the search results relevant, and by giving great websites more exposure without charging an arm and a leg.
dmoz may be free, but I still see a lot of the same data on top of their results as the other search engines where you have to pay to be on top. Could this be because dmoz doesn't have all their own data? They just share another engine's data, where big spenders still come out on top. Olcore has it's own database, and although it's lacking at the moment, it will prove to be far superior.
Some might think that the look and feel should be modified, but the ideas and core technology Olcore.com uses is unique in it's own, beneficial, way.
Relevancy is key! Get the most out of your keywords: http://www.olcore.com
MoeAlza posted this at 03:49 — 4th November 2006.
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I submited my site. It looks really nice. Good Luck.
olcore posted this at 00:05 — 7th November 2006.
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Thank you for your submission. Still looking for some more feedback, how does everyone like the updated look?
JoseffB posted this at 04:35 — 7th November 2006.
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I like the new logo but still it looks ALOT like google.
I understand your argument about Dmoz, but I understand is that Dmoz is actuall a core db for alot of search engines (not the other way around).
However, as a web surfer I'm interested in the results and I actually start wondering "why isnt this search using dmoz in addition to their own database?"
olcore posted this at 19:44 — 12th November 2006.
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Thank you for the comment on the new logo. We are still working on a fresh new appearance, but the logo was a quicker change.
One reason we don't use another database, like dmoz for instance, is that we have no control over that data. If we want relevancy to be our key target, we need our own database in order to make Olcore as relevant as possible. We are, however, working on a crawler to help populate out database, but the key to it is that we still have the final say on site inclusion, meaning that even with our crawler, it is still human checked for relevancy.
Relevancy is key! Get the most out of your keywords: http://www.olcore.com
starzone posted this at 20:37 — 3rd December 2006.
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i searched for something using your site and no results were found
but i like the smiley face
bbmm1980 posted this at 06:01 — 20th June 2008.
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sorry ,I can't open this domain.but I really want to visit your good site.
Michael James Swan posted this at 08:12 — 20th June 2008.
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I cannot access what you say is there. All i can see is some placeholder.
Eljey posted this at 14:07 — 27th June 2008.
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Maybe I missed something. Are we talking about http://www.olcore.com - gold ore deposits and copper market?
FrostBoost posted this at 17:16 — 5th August 2008.
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This website doesnt exist anymore? Strange, it had a very good domain name...
kaiz49 posted this at 17:22 — 11th September 2008.
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Site concept is good.If u bring richness to the design part of the site it will be fine. once I go through what the idea behind the site was I must say that your site has the right idea by clinch the results.YOU can design the logo part littlebit better.
HolyWarlock posted this at 18:06 — 30th December 2008.
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Too simple in design!!
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